Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-23 Thread Michael Skiba
Am Donnerstag, 23. August 2007 16:18 schrieb James Knott: > Please note, I'm > not claiming it's perfect, just far more secure, even for a newbie user. That's exactly my point, sure it's far more secure(first of all it's secure by design, that's an important point), but more secure dosen't mean in

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-23 Thread James Knott
Michael Skiba wrote: Am Donnerstag, 23. August 2007 10:41 schrieb Joachim Schrod: But, as you can read from the other answers to my post, these results are obvioulsy dreamed by me and my customers pay for nothing, because "every linux/unix/*ix box on the planet is not owned by hackers and spa

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-23 Thread Michael Skiba
Am Donnerstag, 23. August 2007 10:41 schrieb Joachim Schrod: > But, as you can read from the other answers to my post, these > results are obvioulsy dreamed by me and my customers pay for > nothing, because "every linux/unix/*ix box on the planet is not > owned by hackers and spammers while so many

[opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-23 Thread Joachim Schrod
John E. Perry wrote: Joachim Schrod wrote: ... Let me propose another hilarious 5-step process: 1. Read the LWN.net security page. OK, so I did. 2. Detect how many exploits are based on data files, and not on executables. just last week: ... Not a single exploit listed. Many vulnerabi

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-22 Thread Ken Jennings
On Wednesday 2007-08-22 11:16, Joachim Schrod wrote: > Sloan wrote: > > It seems to be essentially one of the "honor system" viruses for unix, > > you know the drill: > > > > 1. download the hostile executable > > 2. save the save the hostile executable somewhere appropriate > > 3. change the file

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Ponte
On Wednesday 22 August 2007 10:08, John E. Perry wrote: > Joachim Schrod wrote: > > ... > > Let me propose another hilarious 5-step process: > > > > 1. Read the LWN.net security page. > > OK, so I did. > > > 2. Detect how many exploits are based on data files, and not > >on executables. just la

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-22 Thread Joachim Schrod
> "FMQ" == Federico Mena Quintero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: FMQ> On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 17:16 +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote: FMQ> Hi, Joachim, >> It depends on your intelligence if you need to follow this through >> to the end or if you realize soon enough that from "downloading and >> runni

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-22 Thread John E. Perry
Joachim Schrod wrote: > ... > Let me propose another hilarious 5-step process: > > 1. Read the LWN.net security page. > OK, so I did. > 2. Detect how many exploits are based on data files, and not >on executables. just last week: ... > Not a single exploit listed. Many vulnerabilities, a

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-22 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 17:16 +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote: Hi, Joachim, > It depends on your intelligence if you need to follow this through > to the end or if you realize soon enough that from "downloading and > running executables is not a relevant attack vector for Linux" does > *NOT* follow

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-22 Thread Marcel Mourguiart
2007/8/22, Joachim Schrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sloan wrote: > > > > It seems to be essentially one of the "honor system" viruses for unix, > > you know the drill: > > > > 1. download the hostile executable > > 2. save the save the hostile executable somewhere appropriate > > 3. change the file mo

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-22 Thread joe
Joachim Schrod wrote: > Sloan wrote: >> >> It seems to be essentially one of the "honor system" viruses for unix, >> you know the drill: >> >> 1. download the hostile executable >> 2. save the save the hostile executable somewhere appropriate >> 3. change the file mode to make it executable. >> 4

[opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-22 Thread Joachim Schrod
Sloan wrote: It seems to be essentially one of the "honor system" viruses for unix, you know the drill: 1. download the hostile executable 2. save the save the hostile executable somewhere appropriate 3. change the file mode to make it executable. 4. execute it with the command ./ 5. hilarity e

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-17 Thread Sloan
Pete Connolly wrote: > For a real life example of a linux infecting site, Bruce Schneier > blogged this article: > http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/08/how_a_linux_ser.html which > mentioned the location of an infection site at: > > http://83.19.148.250/~matys/pliki/ > > I'm afraid it's st

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-17 Thread Pete Connolly
Hans Witvliet wrote: > On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 14:59 +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote: > >> James Knott wrote: >> >>> Hans van der Merwe wrote: >>> Why is this not an issue with anyone? Deleting a normal users data is a big thing. They consider the PC broken if their files disap

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-17 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 14:59 +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote: > James Knott wrote: > > Hans van der Merwe wrote: > >> > >> Why is this not an issue with anyone? Deleting a normal users data is a > >> big thing. They consider the PC broken if their files disappear. > >> > > > > That's a minor issue

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-08 Thread James Knott
Joachim Schrod wrote: I shudder when I think about the perceived security of private users. But obviously this real-life experience and the untold man-hours that were needed for cleanup can not happen because they must not happen. It's amazing what some people think. I have a friend, who runs

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-08 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 08/08/2007 08:59 PM, Joachim Schrod wrote: > As the CEO of a company that does security consulting, I can confirm > that malware is not restricted to Windows in its effectivity. Windows > malware volume is larger, but it's frightening to see the mindset > "we're safe because we run Unix/Linux/Ma

[opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-08 Thread Joachim Schrod
James Knott wrote: Hans van der Merwe wrote: Why is this not an issue with anyone? Deleting a normal users data is a big thing. They consider the PC broken if their files disappear. That's a minor issue, compared to some of the other things malware can do. Stuff such as stealing passwo

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-08 Thread Jimmy PIERRE
Could somebody please scan Suse distribution and find if bitdefender found "real" viruses? Cheers, Jimmy PS MicroWorld Technologies Inc. resells AV for Linux http://www.mwti.net/linux/linux_products.asp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-08 Thread Mike McMullin
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 04:01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue August 7 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. scratched these words onto a > coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > > Registration Account escribió: > > > Phishing.Heuristics.emal.spoofedDomain virus's. > > > > http://bofhinc.com/images/c

Re: [opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-08 Thread jfweber
On Tue August 7 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > Registration Account escribió: > > Phishing.Heuristics.emal.spoofedDomain virus's. > > http://bofhinc.com/images/cluepon.jpg And don't you just love the MS "fanboys" who insist that sin

[opensuse] Re: Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-08-07 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Registration Account escribió: > Phishing.Heuristics.emal.spoofedDomain virus's. http://bofhinc.com/images/cluepon.jpg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]