Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 00:14 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: WinXP Home Edition cost 199 USD, Professional is almost impossible to buy today, Vista is 500 dollars. Get your facts straight That is 150 EUR and who want Vista anyways?. But even so, for that money you get exactly nothing

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Jos van Kan
Op ma oktober 29 2007 09:03, schreef Aniruddha: (snip) Let me explain my myself. As the owner of an IT company I am always looking to provide my customers the best (Open Source) solution. I am absolutely not Windows minded however looking at the figures SLED becomes very difficult to sell:

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
Yeah, right. You forgot a couple: Apples 1.99 Eur/kilogram Oranges 0.30 Eur apiece Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 If you don't plan on contributing with arguments please don't say anything at all. How is You are comparing apples with oranges on

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 09:53 +0100, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: Aniruddha wrote: Let me explain my myself. As the owner of an IT company I am always looking to provide my customers the best (Open Source) solution. I am absolutely not Windows minded however looking at the figures SLED

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 09:29 +0100, Jos van Kan wrote: Op ma oktober 29 2007 09:03, schreef Aniruddha: (snip) Let me explain my myself. As the owner of an IT company I am always looking to provide my customers the best (Open Source) solution. I am absolutely not Windows minded however

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 09:53 +0100, Jos van Kan wrote: But I can only repeat the arguments of Anders that you either don't get or don't want to get: Windows XP is a bare OS that you have to spend a lot of money on in buying extra programs to get anything done at all. That is no true. last

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
It's an statement, not an argument backed why facts. A good argument would be It seems to me that you comparing apples to oranges because Or, as it is your problem, you could tell yourself What is this guy trying to tell me? Can I use his input to get a better understanding of my

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Aniruddha wrote: Let me explain my myself. As the owner of an IT company I am always looking to provide my customers the best (Open Source) solution. I am absolutely not Windows minded however looking at the figures SLED becomes very difficult to sell: Windows XP7yr support

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 09:45 +0100, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Yeah, right. You forgot a couple: Apples 1.99 Eur/kilogram Oranges 0.30 Eur apiece Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 If you don't plan on contributing with arguments please don't say

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Jos van Kan
Op ma oktober 29 2007 09:35, schreef Aniruddha: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 09:29 +0100, Jos van Kan wrote: Op ma oktober 29 2007 09:03, schreef Aniruddha: (snip) Let me explain my myself. As the owner of an IT company I am always looking to provide my customers the best (Open Source)

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Aniruddha wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 09:53 +0100, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: Aniruddha wrote: Let me explain my myself. As the owner of an IT company I am always looking to provide my customers the best (Open Source) solution. I am absolutely not Windows minded however looking at the figures

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 10:27 +0100, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: It's an statement, not an argument backed why facts. A good argument would be It seems to me that you comparing apples to oranges because Or, as it is your problem, you could tell yourself What is this guy trying to tell

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 10:36 +0100, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: So I wouldn't expect any lower downtimes or costs when you'd use Gentoo. Sorry but I don't believe that Gentoo is doing a great job in keeping compatibility and stability (over for example 7 years) so that you would have to invest a

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread James Knott
Mike McMullin wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 01:17 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: On Monday 29 October 2007 01:13:02 Mike McMullin wrote: XP-Pro OEM for $145 USd (includes Michigan Sate Taxes, etc.), in the last 4 weeks, proper boxed version. The OEM edition is only legal

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Aniruddha wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 10:36 +0100, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: So I wouldn't expect any lower downtimes or costs when you'd use Gentoo. Sorry but I don't believe that Gentoo is doing a great job in keeping compatibility and stability (over for example 7 years) so that you

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 07:26 -0400, James Knott wrote: Mike McMullin wrote: I only wanted the OS for my son who insisted on Windows for his desktop system. You try your best to raise your kids well, but some of them still go wrong. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread James Knott
Mike McMullin wrote: I only wanted the OS for my son who insisted on Windows for his desktop system. You try your best to raise your kids well, but some of them still go wrong. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 12:39 +0100, Jos van Kan wrote: Which software are your referring to? Office et al. Only now it has become clear that you apparently are targeting the home user, which makes this whole discussion rather pointless. The knowledgeable home user may get a whole slew of

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Jos van Kan
Op ma oktober 29 2007 10:08, schreef Aniruddha: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 09:53 +0100, Jos van Kan wrote: But I can only repeat the arguments of Anders that you either don't get or don't want to get: Windows XP is a bare OS that you have to spend a lot of money on in buying extra programs to

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Bryen
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 13:02 +0100, Aniruddha wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 12:39 +0100, Jos van Kan wrote: Which software are your referring to? Office et al. Only now it has become clear that you apparently are targeting the home user, which makes this whole discussion rather

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 08:22 -0500, Bryen wrote: Non-sense there is more than enough freeware for Windows, you only have to look for it. And in regard to MSoffice There aren't any compulsory subscription fees after your initial purchase. I don't think you're accustomed to the problems

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Bryen
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 14:42 +0100, Aniruddha wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 08:22 -0500, Bryen wrote: Non-sense there is more than enough freeware for Windows, you only have to look for it. And in regard to MSoffice There aren't any compulsory subscription fees after your initial

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 09:12 -0500, Bryen wrote: First of all, because it is clear you are using Evolution, please use Ctrl+L when replying to a list post. Otherwise, I (we) get a double email from you.\ Hey I always use CTRL+l only the last mail was a mistake :( Now, What can Novell

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Bryen
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 15:30 +0100, Aniruddha wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 09:12 -0500, Bryen wrote: First of all, because it is clear you are using Evolution, please use Ctrl+L when replying to a list post. Otherwise, I (we) get a double email from you.\ Hey I always use CTRL+l

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Aniruddha
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 10:01 -0500, Bryen wrote: Do you happen to know if they have something like that for home users? Well, Novell, as a business, is targeted towards corporate markets rather than home markets. For the home market, openSuse would be the alternative. I don't see Novell

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Bryen
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 17:49 +0100, Aniruddha wrote: Thank you, this is a very good explanation. In conclusion we can say Novell has a good solution for corporations (small or huge). For home users openSUSE would be their best choice. The only downside I see is the short life cycle of two

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread jdd
Aniruddha wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 10:01 -0500, Bryen wrote: OpenSuse has alot of packages right out of the box. But, SLED is stripped down to only support the needs of a typical corporate environment. and, may be the most important, the support of Novell is for all the included

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-29-07 15:22]: is that true? I wonder why, in this case, the enhancement are not ported upward to ooo? they are but not in all cases and not always (ever) quickly aiui, all Novell *enhancements* are suggested/provided

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-29 Thread Bryen
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 20:21 +0100, jdd wrote: Aniruddha wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 10:01 -0500, Bryen wrote: OpenSuse has alot of packages right out of the box. But, SLED is stripped down to only support the needs of a typical corporate environment. and, may be the most

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Aniruddha
On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 18:31 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote: And does it really cost 50 EUR per year to get security updates? That, plus other kinds of bug fixes and feature updates, plus support Anders -- Does this mean that when you only pay 50 EUR for one year you don't get

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 28 October 2007 23:39:45 Aniruddha wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 18:31 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote: And does it really cost 50 EUR per year to get security updates? That, plus other kinds of bug fixes and feature updates, plus support Anders -- Does this mean that when

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Bryen
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 00:14 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: On Sunday 28 October 2007 23:39:45 Aniruddha wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 18:31 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote: And does it really cost 50 EUR per year to get security updates? That, plus other kinds of bug fixes and feature

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Mike McMullin
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 00:14 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: On Sunday 28 October 2007 23:39:45 Aniruddha wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 18:31 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote: And does it really cost 50 EUR per year to get security updates? That, plus other kinds of bug fixes and feature

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 28 October 2007 16:14, Anders Johansson wrote: ... But if none of this is important to you, you're probably better off with opensuse. Remind me, the free version of Windows is called.? Ubuntu, I think, though the comforting challenges to your right to run it are absent, and

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Anders Johansson
On Monday 29 October 2007 01:13:02 Mike McMullin wrote: XP-Pro OEM for $145 USd (includes Michigan Sate Taxes, etc.), in the last 4 weeks, proper boxed version. The OEM edition is only legal if you put together boxes for sale, you're not allowed to buy it as an end user If you put together

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 28 October 2007 17:13, Mike McMullin wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 00:14 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: ... WinXP Home Edition cost 199 USD, Professional is almost impossible to buy today, Vista is 500 dollars. Get your facts straight XP-Pro OEM for $145 USd (includes

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 28 October 2007 17:17, Anders Johansson wrote: On Monday 29 October 2007 01:13:02 Mike McMullin wrote: XP-Pro OEM for $145 USd (includes Michigan Sate Taxes, etc.), in the last 4 weeks, proper boxed version. The OEM edition is only legal if you put together boxes for sale,

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Aniruddha escribió: openSUSE 'Security patches' have 'Limited availability. What do they mean with that? And does it really cost 50 EUR per year to get security updates? openSUSE security patches are available for two years...what you pay for the boxed set is the media, installation support

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Mike McMullin
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 01:17 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: On Monday 29 October 2007 01:13:02 Mike McMullin wrote: XP-Pro OEM for $145 USd (includes Michigan Sate Taxes, etc.), in the last 4 weeks, proper boxed version. The OEM edition is only legal if you put together boxes for sale,

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-28 Thread Mike McMullin
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 17:19 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Sunday 28 October 2007 17:13, Mike McMullin wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 00:14 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: ... WinXP Home Edition cost 199 USD, Professional is almost impossible to buy today, Vista is 500 dollars. Get

[opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-27 Thread Aniruddha
According to Novell ( http://shop.novell.com/store/novelleu/DisplayCategoryProductListPage/categoryID.3422200 ) they sell: -SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 - e-License -SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop SP1 -openSUSE 10.3 (Pre-order) What is the difference between SLED 10 - e-License and SLED SP1

Re: [opensuse] What are the exact differences each suse version?

2007-10-27 Thread Anders Johansson
On Saturday 27 October 2007 18:18:48 Aniruddha wrote: According to Novell ( http://shop.novell.com/store/novelleu/DisplayCategoryProductListPage/catego ryID.3422200 ) they sell: -SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 - e-License -SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop SP1 -openSUSE 10.3 (Pre-order)