[opensuse-factory] SPAM: BUG or Feature? Can't replace destructive CD!

2006-07-25 Thread The Nice Spider
When some file on CD installation was damage then the installation STOP anymore. You can not press the Eject button, even point to other media. In Windows (sorry for who hate this OS, this is for example only), when installtion come to damage file then: 1. you can eject the cd and replace with go

[opensuse-factory] SPAM: Why evaluating package run every time?

2006-07-25 Thread The Nice Spider
here i describe in these steps below (sorry, hard to explain, easy to show you the steps) : 1. on installation, choose Gnome 2. now you're waiting for suse to Evaluating Package ... hmmm... takes >30 seconds!!! 3. choose Change - Parttition 4. after finishing work with parttion, then when you bac

[opensuse-factory] SPAM: Can't install even using text mode and the solution!

2006-07-25 Thread The Nice Spider
PROBLEM 10.2 alpha 2: - Using Asus P4V8X-MX with onboard VGA, Intel Celeron D 2.6 GHz. 1. on first installation screen I press F3 2. then this text appear at left-top screen: --pstx---rstk- : . : :---

[opensuse-factory] SPAM: BUG OR FEATURE? You can by pass SF2!

2006-07-25 Thread The Nice Spider
Using SF2 v3.3 on Suse 10.2 alpha2: - squid on port 8080 with all local client can access internet - SF2: set fw_masq_nets="192.168.0.1" #only this pc can access internet (rule A) - SF2: set to redirect port 80 to 8080 #this is define after fw_masq_nets (rule B) - but... now every client on LAN

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread houghi
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 09:10:05PM +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: > * houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 25. 2006 19:52]: > > > > Would patterns also be able to contain information about installation > > sources? > > No. Repositories offer patterns but not vice versa. Pity. Oh well. We still need thing

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 25. 2006 19:52]: > > Would patterns also be able to contain information about installation > sources? No. Repositories offer patterns but not vice versa. > e.g. if I use a pattern, it will offer me (or add automagicaly) > to add an extra installation source? We

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 25. 2006 19:20]: > > I think we have a slightly different view/understanding of the patterns. > To me, it's not as much high-level packages than rather groups. Patterns is what you make of it ;-) Their basics is dependencies, just like packages have. They

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread houghi
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 07:19:55PM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: > btw, just to make sure I got that right, can patterns be organized into > a tree (i.e. do they have a hierarchy) ? > e.g. Development/Database/Server As patterns can contain other patterns, I would say: yes. > I really see a risk of

Re: [opensuse-factory] Konsole crashes on Alpha 2

2006-07-25 Thread Arto Viitanen
Stephan Kulow kirjoitti: > Am Montag, 24. Juli 2006 20:02 schrieb Arto Viitanen: > >> Stephan Kulow kirjoitti: >> >>> Am Samstag, 22. Juli 2006 15:32 schrieb Arto Viitanen: >>> I did install kdebase3-debuginfo-3.5.3-13.i586.rpm and kdelibs3-debuginfo-3.5.3-15.i586.rpm from

Re: [opensuse-factory] YaST2 package upgrade operation (was: Packagage Groupings...)

2006-07-25 Thread houghi
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 07:04:02PM +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: > And this is still true for most enterprise systems. Sysadmins will never > upgrade because a newer version is available but only because of a fixed > bug or a required feature. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :-) -- The whole princi

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread Richard Bos
Op dinsdag 25 juli 2006 18:49, schreef Klaus Kaempf: > Patterns is about the ability to group packages for better overview > and handling, mostly at the UI level. Its an abstraction level. > > However, I do agree that some kind of public 'pattern database' would > be nice in order to find duplicate

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Klaus Kaempf wrote: > * Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 23. 2006 12:42]: > [...] >> Now, with those patterns, if they're not a closed, well-defined list of >> options to choose from, we will most probably end up with chaos. > > Well, actually I

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 25. 2006 19:00]: > > patterns are more like categories in the wiki, only > informational. If one looks for a text editor, he should not > have to look at "writers" "editors" text processors", but > only at one of them. several nearby words can exist, but > hopefu

Re: [opensuse-factory] YaST2 package upgrade operation (was: Packagage Groupings...)

2006-07-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 23. 2006 12:50]: > > I totally agree, upgrading packages is a major pain. Its mostly caused by historical reasons. Our main focus was on controlled (and controllable) customer environments for support purposes. Giving the user the ability to upgrade whate

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread jdd
Klaus Kaempf a écrit : * jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 23. 2006 14:57]: Pascal Bleser wrote: Now, with those patterns, if they're not a closed, well-defined list of options to choose from, we will most probably end up with chaos. this point deserve to be better seen. It's probably essential t

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 23. 2006 12:46]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Klaus Kaempf wrote: > > * James Oakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 12. 2006 16:44]: > >> You could also use this to select tasks independently of the desktop > >> environment. If you selec

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 23. 2006 14:57]: > Pascal Bleser wrote: > > >Now, with those patterns, if they're not a closed, well-defined list of > >options to choose from, we will most probably end up with chaos. > > this point deserve to be better seen. > > It's probably essential to have a

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 23. 2006 12:42]: [...] > > Now, with those patterns, if they're not a closed, well-defined list of > options to choose from, we will most probably end up with chaos. Well, actually I don't think so. We'll probably get as much (or better as less) chaos as w

Re: [opensuse-factory] Unmantained package ladspa

2006-07-25 Thread Juan Erbes
2006/7/25, jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Juan Erbes wrote: >> From 3 mohnts ago, I could'nt use audacity because with any version >> (1.24b, > > 1.3 beta, 1.3.1beta cvs), it hangs (precompiled or compiled by me). > The last weekend, I debuguing it with ddd and gdb, and I found that the > hang > comes

Re: [opensuse-factory] Unmantained package ladspa

2006-07-25 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 08:52:13AM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote: > >From 3 mohnts ago, I could'nt use audacity because with any version (1.24b, > 1.3 beta, 1.3.1beta cvs), it hangs (precompiled or compiled by me). > The last weekend, I debuguing it with ddd and gdb, and I found that the hang > comes wit

Re: [opensuse-factory] Unmantained package ladspa

2006-07-25 Thread jdd
Juan Erbes wrote: From 3 mohnts ago, I could'nt use audacity because with any version (1.24b, 1.3 beta, 1.3.1beta cvs), it hangs (precompiled or compiled by me). The last weekend, I debuguing it with ddd and gdb, and I found that the hang comes with triangle librarie from the ladspa plugins.

[opensuse-factory] Unmantained package ladspa

2006-07-25 Thread Juan Erbes
From 3 mohnts ago, I could'nt use audacity because with any version (1.24b, 1.3 beta, 1.3.1beta cvs), it hangs (precompiled or compiled by me). The last weekend, I debuguing it with ddd and gdb, and I found that the hang comes with triangle librarie from the ladspa plugins. Then I recompiled auda

Re: [opensuse-factory] Public YOU testing / Broken YOUs + avoiding them

2006-07-25 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 11:03:38PM +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently a little bit disappointed of > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=192743 > > and its duplicate > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=193996 > > which is caused by a broken YOU for SUSE L

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating m4 package from factory

2006-07-25 Thread Chema Ollés
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Hanke escribió: > To answer your question: Factory is not guaranteed to be always consistent. > > See also: http://en.opensuse.org/Factory > > For example, it can happen that a package is updated in such a way that > dependent packages have