Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations

2007-03-02 Thread Alberto Passalacqua
Il giorno ven, 02/03/2007 alle 18.26 -0500, JP Rosevear ha scritto: > So, to be frank about this, the development group that includes GNOME > work has not been very focused on openSUSE in the past, however we've > been making a concerted effort to change this for 10.3. In the next > couple of days

Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations

2007-03-02 Thread Ted Bullock
Marcus Meissner wrote: > > It just helps to be insistent. And if there is no reaction, just bring > it up on this list. > Personally, I have found that defects that I report on bugzilla tend to disappear into the void and are never acted on and sometimes with little to no response. I hardly exp

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread JP Rosevear
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 11:56 +0100, Ludwig Nussel wrote: > JP Rosevear wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 11:29 +0100, Ludwig Nussel wrote: > > > JP Rosevear wrote: > > > > One good use case we've seen with customers is that they don't want to > > > > give out the root password because that would enab

Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations

2007-03-02 Thread JP Rosevear
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 22:52 +0100, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: > After quite a long time, I decided to do some considerations on the > status of OpenSUSE as a community and as a distribution, starting from > everyday experience. > > I'll start from some bug reports, which affects me directly and wh

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread JP Rosevear
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 12:33 +0100, Klaus Singvogel wrote: > JP Rosevear wrote: > [...] > > > > 1) Detecting a local USB printer when plugged into the machine and > > prompting the user to configure it or automatically selecting a driver > > and configuring the printer > > > > We have a lot of the

Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations

2007-03-02 Thread Alberto Passalacqua
Il giorno ven, 02/03/2007 alle 23.15 +0100, Marcus Meissner ha scritto: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:52:25PM +0100, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: > > After quite a long time, I decided to do some considerations on the > > status of OpenSUSE as a community and as a distribution, starting from > > every

Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations

2007-03-02 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 11:14:27PM +0100, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: > Il giorno ven, 02/03/2007 alle 23.05 +0100, Richard Bos ha scritto: > > Op vrijdag 2 maart 2007 22:52, schreef Alberto Passalacqua: > > > * main-menu Hangs > > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=240727 >

Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations

2007-03-02 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:52:25PM +0100, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: > After quite a long time, I decided to do some considerations on the > status of OpenSUSE as a community and as a distribution, starting from > everyday experience. > > I'll start from some bug reports, which affects me directly

Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations

2007-03-02 Thread Alberto Passalacqua
Il giorno ven, 02/03/2007 alle 23.05 +0100, Richard Bos ha scritto: > Op vrijdag 2 maart 2007 22:52, schreef Alberto Passalacqua: > > * main-menu Hangs > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=240727 > > This bug number is incorrect. What is the right one? I'm sorry. I paste

Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations

2007-03-02 Thread Richard Bos
Op vrijdag 2 maart 2007 22:52, schreef Alberto Passalacqua: >       * main-menu Hangs >         https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=240727 This bug number is incorrect. What is the right one? >       * Banshee doesn't recognize ipod >         https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2

[opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations

2007-03-02 Thread Alberto Passalacqua
After quite a long time, I decided to do some considerations on the status of OpenSUSE as a community and as a distribution, starting from everyday experience. I'll start from some bug reports, which affects me directly and which have been waiting for a solution for a long time since the release o

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-02 at 20:54 +0100, M9. wrote: > Patrick Shanahan schreef: > > * M9. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-02-07 11:44]: > > [...] > >> Btw. did anyone got the key imported? > > > > For an open mailing list??? You waste my time! > > Well fuck

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread M9.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. schreef: > > The Friday 2007-03-02 at 17:41 +0100, M9. wrote: > >> Btw. did anyone got the key imported? > > Yes, but from the previous email: > > | gpg: Signature made Thu 01 Mar 2007 11:52:51 AM CET using DSA key ID > 7E8BA438 >

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread M9.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Shanahan schreef: > * M9. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-02-07 11:44]: > [...] >> Btw. did anyone got the key imported? > > For an open mailing list??? You waste my time! Well fuck you than... ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-02 at 13:55 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > Btw. did anyone got the key imported? > > For an open mailing list??? You waste my time! Precisely for an open mail list! You haven't been hit by an impersonating trickster on a li

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-02 at 17:41 +0100, M9. wrote: > Thought so it was me again... > Was testing 10.3A0+, on 586, and as i upgraded the systen from > 10.2RCfinal trough the net, also thinderbird got upgraded, with a new > pgp module, which is

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* M9. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-02-07 11:44]: [...] > Btw. did anyone got the key imported? For an open mailing list??? You waste my time! -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US124471

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread M9.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sid Boyce schreef: > Carlos E. R. wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 2007-03-01 13:35 +0100, M9 wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- >>> Charset: ISO-8859-15 >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >>> Comment: Using

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread Sid Boyce
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-03-01 13:35 +0100, M9 wrote: -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Charset: ISO-8859-15 Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org hQIOA/E8+Y9nFZR0EAf/YeEfYvt2amLhhj7E4ni/t/yTIWnk

Re: [opensuse-factory] Heads up for 2.6.21

2007-03-02 Thread Sid Boyce
Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Freitag 02 März 2007 schrieb Sid Boyce: On openSUSE 10.2 (KDE-3.5.5) and 10.3 Alpha (KDE-3.5.6), I've encountered a problem with vanilla 2.6.21-rc1 up to 2.6.21-rc2-git1. KDE is setup not to require a password to unlock the screen, but it asks for password. When given the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-03-01 13:35 +0100, M9 wrote: -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Charset: ISO-8859-15 Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org hQIOA/E8+Y9nFZR0EAf/YeEfYvt2amLhhj7E4ni/t/yTIWnkMr0o1DswSusOs7a2 n6sc

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-03-01 at 12:33 +0100, Klaus Singvogel wrote: ... > But if not, then we might replace the hal backend by _any_ backend, > and no need to use no longer developed tools (hal backend) is needed. > Instead we can use our own mechanism h

Re: [opensuse-factory] Heads up for 2.6.21

2007-03-02 Thread Sid Boyce
Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 04:41:08AM +, Sid Boyce wrote: On openSUSE 10.2 (KDE-3.5.5) and 10.3 Alpha (KDE-3.5.6), I've encountered a problem with vanilla 2.6.21-rc1 up to 2.6.21-rc2-git1. KDE is setup not to require a password to unlock the screen, but it asks for password. Wh

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-03-01 at 11:29 +0100, Ludwig Nussel wrote: > > What specific part of printer configuration should a user be able to > do without authentication? Demanding that users must be able to > "configure printers" without knowing the root p

Re: [opensuse-factory] [RFC] autofs5

2007-03-02 Thread M9.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Koenig schreef: > Hi, > > I would like to update to autofs5. > autofs5 is a major rewrite of autofs4 and while there might still > be some problems I hope it is stable enough. Fedora is already shipping > this. We really should have it in Co

[opensuse-factory] [RFC] autofs5

2007-03-02 Thread Matthias Koenig
Hi, I would like to update to autofs5. autofs5 is a major rewrite of autofs4 and while there might still be some problems I hope it is stable enough. Fedora is already shipping this. We really should have it in Code 11, so I want this to be tested in openSUSE 10.3. Most of the new features enh

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread Ludwig Nussel
JP Rosevear wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 11:29 +0100, Ludwig Nussel wrote: > > JP Rosevear wrote: > > > One good use case we've seen with customers is that they don't want to > > > give out the root password because that would enable users to do > > > anything they want like update packages. > >

Re: [opensuse-factory] Heads up for 2.6.21

2007-03-02 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Freitag 02 März 2007 schrieb Sid Boyce: > On openSUSE 10.2 (KDE-3.5.5) and 10.3 Alpha (KDE-3.5.6), I've > encountered a problem with vanilla 2.6.21-rc1 up to 2.6.21-rc2-git1. KDE > is setup not to require a password to unlock the screen, but it asks for > password. When given the password, it un

Re: [opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3

2007-03-02 Thread JP Rosevear
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 11:29 +0100, Ludwig Nussel wrote: > JP Rosevear wrote: > > One good use case we've seen with customers is that they don't want to > > give out the root password because that would enable users to do > > anything they want like update packages. > > What specific part of printe