RE: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)

2019-01-16 Thread sogal

Le 2019-01-16 09:28, jimmypierre.rouen.fra...@gmail.com a écrit :

-Original Message-
From: ddemaio [mailto:ddem...@suse.de]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:14 AM
To: so...@opensuse.org; Bruno Friedmann
Cc: opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was :
openSUSE on Mastodon)



On 1/16/19 8:46 AM, so...@opensuse.org wrote:

Hi all,

Le 2019-01-16 08:16, Bruno Friedmann a écrit :

On mercredi, 16 janvier 2019 07.41:38 h CET ddemaio wrote:

Hi Bruno and Jimmy,

On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
> Hi Sogal,
>
>> Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there
is no
>> openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think
it is
>> relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it.
>
> I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the
> account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account.
That
> aside>
>> One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter
>> openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet
last
>> year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me
seem to,
>> more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I
would be
>> happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the
>> Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto,
Alionet
>> is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every
openSUSE
>> news I translate.
>
> Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you
post on the
> Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess.

What do you all think?

It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts
v/r
Doug


I've no idea about what we are talking about, what is a social media
? ;-)
Did you realize that you need an account to access this kind of
informations,
this is not freedom...


I agree on that. Hopefully Vinzenz started using Mastodon. I can
create an openSUSE_FR account on Mastodon as well. It's free software,
but one will need an account as well :-\ That being said, those
"social media" accounts are just a relay, the original information are
still freely and publicly available to all (on Alionet for the French
example).


About using or not the openSUSE_FR account on "oiseau bleu ", I guess
it's
better to feed it with content (even the same than alionet) than 
nothing


Guetting all contacts organized on the wiki is very important, and as
far we
can Doug should always be the backup administrator.


All right, thanks all for you answers. I will take some time by the
end of the week to refresh this account and feed it. I will update the
wiki page as well.

@ Douglas : I will email you the admin access if it is ok to you.


Hi All,

Been quite busy but last week I found a few discrepancies on this page
and will report same in the next ten days.

Splitting information, hence duplicating information does not benefit.
If I need information on a subject, I will look for it at the source
and not on a search engine because if the way SEO affects searches
does not mean it’s the Bible, neither the latest and up to date
information.

Wikipedia is a good example. You look at say Linux and in the left
widget, you can choose the language that you want. So if we want to
know about the Roadmap of eg. openSUSE Leap 16, it would be best to
find it at one  place in as many languages as possible.

Having said that, I now know who had admin access to openSUSE FR of
Twitter :). Silent for a very long time but SUSE tweets about openSUSE
in French.

So it would be great to use and improve existing social network tools
where we have a guaranteed audience who by the way know how to use
them.

Just my two cents.

Best wishes and une Bonne et Belle Année à tous nos amis francophones
et francophiles!

Jimmy


Hi Jimmy,

Not sure that I get all your points.
I agree that splitting information is not the best way, but I think 
that, when it comes to promotion, more is better, and that some people 
might expect this openSUSE_FR to be active. Beside that, the name 
"openSUSE_FR" itself will probably speak to more people, when they are 
looking for openSUSE related stuff on Twitter or other, than Alionet.


The duplication of accounts is only seen on Twitter, so another option 
is simply to close one of the duplicated accounts but I am not conviced 
that it would do any good.


Thank you and "Bonne année" à toi aussi :)

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RE: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)

2019-01-16 Thread jimmypierre.rouen.france



-Original Message-
From: ddemaio [mailto:ddem...@suse.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:14 AM
To: so...@opensuse.org; Bruno Friedmann
Cc: opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on 
Mastodon)



On 1/16/19 8:46 AM, so...@opensuse.org wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Le 2019-01-16 08:16, Bruno Friedmann a écrit :
>> On mercredi, 16 janvier 2019 07.41:38 h CET ddemaio wrote:
>>> Hi Bruno and Jimmy,
>>>
>>> On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
>>> > Hi Sogal,
>>> >
>>> >> Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there 
>>> is no
>>> >> openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think 
>>> it is
>>> >> relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it.
>>> >
>>> > I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the
>>> > account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. 
>>> That
>>> > aside>
>>> >> One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter
>>> >> openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet 
>>> last
>>> >> year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me 
>>> seem to,
>>> >> more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I 
>>> would be
>>> >> happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the
>>> >> Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, 
>>> Alionet
>>> >> is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every 
>>> openSUSE
>>> >> news I translate.
>>> >
>>> > Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you 
>>> post on the
>>> > Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess.
>>>
>>> What do you all think?
>>>
>>> It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on
>>> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts
>>> v/r
>>> Doug
>>
>> I've no idea about what we are talking about, what is a social media 
>> ? ;-)
>> Did you realize that you need an account to access this kind of 
>> informations,
>> this is not freedom...
>
> I agree on that. Hopefully Vinzenz started using Mastodon. I can 
> create an openSUSE_FR account on Mastodon as well. It's free software, 
> but one will need an account as well :-\ That being said, those 
> "social media" accounts are just a relay, the original information are 
> still freely and publicly available to all (on Alionet for the French 
> example).
>
>> About using or not the openSUSE_FR account on "oiseau bleu ", I guess 
>> it's
>> better to feed it with content (even the same than alionet) than nothing
>>
>> Guetting all contacts organized on the wiki is very important, and as 
>> far we
>> can Doug should always be the backup administrator.
>
> All right, thanks all for you answers. I will take some time by the 
> end of the week to refresh this account and feed it. I will update the 
> wiki page as well.
>
> @ Douglas : I will email you the admin access if it is ok to you.

Hi All,

Been quite busy but last week I found a few discrepancies on this page and will 
report same in the next ten days.

Splitting information, hence duplicating information does not benefit. If I 
need information on a subject, I will look for it at the source and not on a 
search engine because if the way SEO affects searches does not mean it’s the 
Bible, neither the latest and up to date information.

Wikipedia is a good example. You look at say Linux and in the left widget, you 
can choose the language that you want. So if we want to know about the Roadmap 
of eg. openSUSE Leap 16, it would be best to find it at one  place in as many 
languages as possible.

Having said that, I now know who had admin access to openSUSE FR of Twitter :). 
Silent for a very long time but SUSE tweets about openSUSE in French.

So it would be great to use and improve existing social network tools where we 
have a guaranteed audience who by the way know how to use them.

Just my two cents.

Best wishes and une Bonne et Belle Année à tous nos amis francophones et 
francophiles!

Jimmy

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)

2019-01-16 Thread ddemaio




On 1/16/19 8:46 AM, so...@opensuse.org wrote:

Hi all,

Le 2019-01-16 08:16, Bruno Friedmann a écrit :

On mercredi, 16 janvier 2019 07.41:38 h CET ddemaio wrote:

Hi Bruno and Jimmy,

On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
> Hi Sogal,
>
>> Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there 
is no
>> openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think 
it is

>> relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it.
>
> I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the
> account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. 
That

> aside>
>> One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter
>> openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet 
last
>> year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me 
seem to,
>> more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I 
would be

>> happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the
>> Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, 
Alionet
>> is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every 
openSUSE

>> news I translate.
>
> Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you 
post on the

> Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess.

What do you all think?

It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts
v/r
Doug


I've no idea about what we are talking about, what is a social media 
? ;-)
Did you realize that you need an account to access this kind of 
informations,

this is not freedom...


I agree on that. Hopefully Vinzenz started using Mastodon. I can 
create an openSUSE_FR account on Mastodon as well. It's free software, 
but one will need an account as well :-\ That being said, those 
"social media" accounts are just a relay, the original information are 
still freely and publicly available to all (on Alionet for the French 
example).


About using or not the openSUSE_FR account on "oiseau bleu ", I guess 
it's

better to feed it with content (even the same than alionet) than nothing

Guetting all contacts organized on the wiki is very important, and as 
far we

can Doug should always be the backup administrator.


All right, thanks all for you answers. I will take some time by the 
end of the week to refresh this account and feed it. I will update the 
wiki page as well.


@ Douglas : I will email you the admin access if it is ok to you.


Please do. Thank you
v/r
Doug
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