Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
e, but doing it like I gave (which is deploy-time and makes a lot of sense in many cases) is impossible right now. -Pat - Original Message - From: "Darren Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Darren Hobbs
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 02:40:11PM -0800, Patrick Lightbody wrote: > All done with an ActionPool: > > Foo.action=Foo > Foo.success=DoTriggers.action > DoTriggers.action=ActionPool > DoTriggers.params.action1=DoBlah > DoTriggers.params.action2=DoBleh > DoTriggers.params.action3=DoFlog > DoTriggers.

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 11:48:58AM +0100, Rickard wrote: > > > > Hm... maybe I'm just going crazy here, but the

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Darren Hobbs
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 11:48:58AM +0100, Rickard wrote: > > Hm... maybe I'm just going crazy here, but the above smells like it > needs AOP :-) SCE sounds like an interceptor to me...many of the > problems here seem to be related to NOT making a difference between > actual functionality and th

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Maurice Parker
Is no one seeing it? AmI really just that strange with WebWork usage? *Sigh* Patrick, you are fighting against the framework instead of trying to use it. No matter how many times I show you how to accomplish what you want, you don't even try it. Stop trying to force it to work the way

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
> >CreateAccount.action=Create > >CreateAccount.error=create_error.jsp > >CreateAccount.success=SendConfirmationEmail.action > >SendConfirmationEmail.action=SendEmail > >SendConfirmationEmail.error=create_error.jsp > >SendConfirmationEmail.success=LoginUser.action > >SendConfirmationEmail.params.su

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Maurice Parker
IL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration Cool, Billy's still around. :-) Philipp Meier wrote: What happens when SendConfirmationEmail.action hits an error condition? Assume

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
asing the SAME action in MANY different places. Not only for chaining (though that is a good use) but also for generic action re-use. You can so much more power by being able to specify params as well. -Pat - Original Message - From: "Maurice Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Maurice Parker
Philipp Meier wrote: Recently I developed a simplistic WebWork clone in Ruby. That reminds me, I know a guy who is doing a WebWork like clone in C# and Maverick was at least partially inspired by WW. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Nice architecture work Rickard! -Maurice

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
> In a web environment, a single termination point is logical, but as we > move away from being web based, might there be a place for ending on > multiple views? For the above example, CreateAccount could have 2 success > views, one view rendered to SMTP, the other to HTTP. Since an Action > should

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Maurice Parker
Cool, Billy's still around. :-) Philipp Meier wrote: What happens when SendConfirmationEmail.action hits an error condition? Assume the email cannot sent because of network misconfiguration. This should certainly be reported to the user. (Threre I would suggest including the send email logic i

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Philipp Meier
Am Mit, 2002-11-06 um 10.44 schrieb Erik Beeson: > > "Can a chain have more than one View?" > > > > Yes, of course: > > I read this to mean, can a chain actually finish on more than one view. > For example: > > CreateAccount.action=Create > CreateAccount.success=SendConfirmationEmail.action,creat

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Rickard Öberg
Joseph Ottinger wrote: Well, I was looking at SendConfirmationEmail as an action/view inside the chain, not as a chain in and of itself. I can see a lot of power in the ability to, say, do something like this (poorly thought out, I just got up): SubscribeToList.action=Subscribe Subscribe.success

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Joseph Ottinger
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Patrick Lightbody wrote: > SendConfirmationEmail isn't exactly a chain, the example got munged up and I > really did mean SendEmail to be used as an Action. Anyway, enough about > that... to answer your question: > > "Can a chain have more than one View?" > > Yes, of course: W

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Erik Beeson
> "Can a chain have more than one View?" > > Yes, of course: I read this to mean, can a chain actually finish on more than one view. For example: CreateAccount.action=Create CreateAccount.success=SendConfirmationEmail.action,create_success.jsp In which case the answer would be no. A chain can on

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
inger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration > In summary, Maurice brought up a good point about SendConfirmationEmail > being a View rather than an action... >

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-06 Thread Patrick Lightbody
al Message - From: "Maurice C. Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration > Our debate both raging through email and irc, is in a much different > place than

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-05 Thread Maurice C . Parker
at this level of configuration could be addressed in 2.0. Maybe if Maurice or Mike gets a chance, he can try to sum up what we went over in #java. -Pat - Original Message - From: "Maurice C. Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, Novemb

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-05 Thread Joseph Ottinger
In summary, Maurice brought up a good point about SendConfirmationEmail being a View rather than an action... That brings up another concept. Can a chain have more than one View? I personally agree with Maurice in this: sendConfirmationEmail sounds EXACTLY like a view (that happens to be "viewed"

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
ld be addressed in 2.0. Maybe if Maurice or Mike gets a chance, he can try to sum up what we went over in #java. -Pat - Original Message - From: "Maurice C. Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [O

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-04 Thread Maurice C . Parker
On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 06:45 PM, Patrick Lightbody wrote: I believe I've nailed down, in words, why the current configuration is sub-optimal. The Configuration object uses a single method: I disagree. You have yet to ask for any functionality that can't be handled by the current con

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration > Isn't this is a violation of basic programming principals - don't put lots > of data into a string? :) > > Could we just make a '

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Exactly my point all along. - Original Message - From: "Mike Cannon-Brookes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration > Isn't this is a violation of basic

Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-04 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes
Isn't this is a violation of basic programming principals - don't put lots of data into a string? :) Could we just make a 'ViewObject' that is returned instead? (ie for backward compatibility - ViewObject.getString() returns the current think - so no change?) That is confusing (rereading) - basi

[OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration

2002-11-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
A while back when Rickard asked what else, besides GenericDispatcher, was needed to make WebWork a more generic command framework, I responded with the following list: -Ditch JavaBeans, replace with OGNL -Provide more dispatchers based on GenericDispatcher (SOAP, Servlet, Swing, etc) -make confi