Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread Vineet Kumar
Skype breaks too. They also send non-SSL bytes and then SSL. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Jason Haar wrote: > On 03/12/2011 10:34 AM, Vineet Kumar wrote: >> BlueCoat's ProxySG is one that runs tranparent SSL protocol detection >> and breaks if openvpn traffic is

Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread Jason Haar
On 03/12/2011 10:34 AM, Vineet Kumar wrote: > BlueCoat's ProxySG is one that runs tranparent SSL protocol detection > and breaks if openvpn traffic is coming in via 443. This proxy is able > to pass through other non-HTTP pure SSL traffic though and not just > HTTPS. A bit off-topic, but do you

Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread Vineet Kumar
BlueCoat's ProxySG is one that runs tranparent SSL protocol detection and breaks if openvpn traffic is coming in via 443. This proxy is able to pass through other non-HTTP pure SSL traffic though and not just HTTPS. Vineet On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Joe Patterson

Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread Joe Patterson
Do you have a pointer to a specific SSL proxy that you're talking about? I have this sneaking suspicion that what you're actually referring to is a transparent https proxy, which would most definitely *not* work, as openvpn rides on top of ssl, but not on top of http on top of ssl. A good test

Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/11 20:09, Vineet Kumar wrote: > Thanks for your replies. > > So, > - without --tls-auth > - with tcp as the transport > if we want to make openvpn purely SSL then are these the complete set > of things to take care of?: > 1. Move all

Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread Vineet Kumar
Thanks for your replies. So, - without --tls-auth - with tcp as the transport if we want to make openvpn purely SSL then are these the complete set of things to take care of?: 1. Move all P_CONTROL_* messages to be encapsulated in SSL 2. Stop adding reliability layer over SSL Let's say,

Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread Markus Kötter
David Sommerseth wrote: The reason for this is that OpenVPN is primarily written for the UDP protocol. ~ While SSL itself is very TCP oriented. To my knowledge, there are no UDP transport support in OpenSSL. DTLS? http://sctp.fh-muenster.de/dtls-samples.html Markus

Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread David Sommerseth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/11 10:04, Gert Doering wrote: | Hi, | | On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 05:04:48PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: |> Also, doesn't this make openvpn different from other SSL VPNs which |> advertise the fact that they are truly SSL? | | Well, OpenVPN is

Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 05:04:48PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: > Also, doesn't this make openvpn different from other SSL VPNs which > advertise the fact that they are truly SSL? Well, OpenVPN is "truly SSL", but it's not "using https as a browser would do to hide the fact that there is a VPN

Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread Jason Haar
On 03/11/2011 02:04 PM, Vineet Kumar wrote: > Hi, > Due to the reliability layer wrapping the SSL handshake packets plus > a few non-SSL messages during tunnel-setup time the openvpn protocol > when targeted to port 443 (instead of 1194) ends up breaking if a > proxy sits in the middle and is

[Openvpn-devel] openvpn protocol breaks proxies intercepting SSL ...

2011-03-11 Thread Vineet Kumar
Hi, Due to the reliability layer wrapping the SSL handshake packets plus a few non-SSL messages during tunnel-setup time the openvpn protocol when targeted to port 443 (instead of 1194) ends up breaking if a proxy sits in the middle and is expecting SSL procol on 443. How can I get around this