Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] [OpenWrt-Users] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread Russell Senior
> "John" == John Crispin writes: >> IMHO if you want to add "freshness" and still leverage the old brand >> you do something like, e.g., Pepsi Zero. You do "The OpenWRT LEDE >> Edition!". >> >> Just a thought. >> John> certainly an interesting idea worth considering.

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] [OpenWrt-Users] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread John Crispin
On 22/12/2016 16:57, Karl O. Pinc wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 00:58:22 -0800 (PST) > David Lang wrote: > >> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016, John Crispin wrote: > >>> claiming that there is only one option and no alternatives is just >>> not constructive and wont lead to a broad

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Currently, LEDE has the same problem as LibreOffice, but compounded by > the fact that most people have no idea what LEDE is, let alone that it's > somehow related to OpenWRT. Not only this, but LibreOffice and

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> - While brands have value, you can change a name without losing all the >> brand recognition. I'm thinking here of cases like XBMC->Kodi or >> OpenOffice-> LibreOffice. > I would point at OpenOffice -> LibreOffice as a failure of name changes. There are several aspects in a name change. E.g.

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread John Crispin
On 22/12/2016 09:58, David Lang wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2016, John Crispin wrote: > >> On 22/12/2016 09:42, David Lang wrote: >>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016, John Crispin wrote: >>> > Yes, the name is pointing at a product that doesn't exist any longer, > but Deb and Ian aren't involved with

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016, John Crispin wrote: On 22/12/2016 09:42, David Lang wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2016, John Crispin wrote: Yes, the name is pointing at a product that doesn't exist any longer, but Deb and Ian aren't involved with Debian any longer either. At some point the fact that a name is

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread John Crispin
On 22/12/2016 09:42, David Lang wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2016, John Crispin wrote: > >>> Yes, the name is pointing at a product that doesn't exist any longer, >>> but Deb and Ian aren't involved with Debian any longer either. At some >>> point the fact that a name is known matters far more than

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016, John Crispin wrote: Yes, the name is pointing at a product that doesn't exist any longer, but Deb and Ian aren't involved with Debian any longer either. At some point the fact that a name is known matters far more than the historical reasons for the name. a problem that

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread John Crispin
On 22/12/2016 09:40, David Lang wrote: > On Wed, 21 Dec 2016, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> - While brands have value, you can change a name without losing all the >> brand recognition. I'm thinking here of cases like XBMC->Kodi or >> OpenOffice->LibreOffice. > > I would point at OpenOffice ->

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread John Crispin
On 22/12/2016 09:36, David Lang wrote: > On Wed, 21 Dec 2016, Dave Taht wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:29 PM, David Lang wrote: >>> On Wed, 21 Dec 2016, Kathy Giori wrote: >>> From a PR perspective, I strongly suggest keeping the term OpenWrt as part of the

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016, Stefan Monnier wrote: - While brands have value, you can change a name without losing all the brand recognition. I'm thinking here of cases like XBMC->Kodi or OpenOffice->LibreOffice. I would point at OpenOffice -> LibreOffice as a failure of name changes. David Lang

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Talks between OpenWrt and LEDE

2016-12-22 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016, Dave Taht wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:29 PM, David Lang wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2016, Kathy Giori wrote: From a PR perspective, I strongly suggest keeping the term OpenWrt as part of the branding of the project moving forward. It can just be cosmetic