Re: Best VSDL modem-router to target?

2021-12-03 Thread Andre Heider

Hi,

On 03/12/2021 05:28, Andrew Punch wrote:

Hi,

I live in a small unit, so the usual advice to have a separate VDSL modem, 
router and ATA isn't great space wise.

Is there an all-in-one VDSL modem + router + ATA that would be worth targeting?


for DSL on OpenWrt, lantiq is your only option. The default image ships 
with a DSL firmware, so it's working out of the box. But it's common for 
users to replace it for better performance, see [0].


There're a few devices which have even the ata working via asterisk, but 
if you're going asterisk you might as well forget about that analogue 
crap :P


As far as supported devices go, the BT homehub v5a is the only one with 
5ghz wifi, which is why it's still a popular device.


The next best thing seems to be the fritzbox 7530 (the older model, NOT 
the ax variant), which is more powerful device. While it's supported, 
the newer dsl chipset isn't. There's work going on to change that though 
[1].


The fritzbox 7520 (aka 1&1 homeserver) seems to be the same hardware, it 
can even be flashed to the vendor 7530 firmware. And that's rather cheap 
compared to the 7530. That'll be my choice if you don't mind using some 
not-yet-merged patches.


Cheers,
Andre

[0] 
https://forum.openwrt.org/t/lantiq-vrx200-xdsl-firmware-recommendation-thread/52937
[1] 
https://forum.openwrt.org/t/adding-support-for-vrx518-and-maybe-vrx320/55160



I am happy to purchase a spare one for anyone on the mailing list and I'm a 
software engineer who has done minor kernel fixes.

Thanks
-Andrew

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Re: Best VSDL modem-router to target?

2021-12-03 Thread Christian Lamparter

On 03/12/2021 22:21, Stefan Lippers-Hollmann wrote:

Hi

On 2021-12-03, Andrew Punch wrote:

Spoke too soon Fritzbox 7490 has been discontinued. Might be able to
get one from the US if I use the freight forwarder but I don't like my
chances.


The Fritz!Box 7490 is rather special, two SOCs on one board (lantiq
base, with an ath79 board dealing with the wireless on top and special
VLANs between them), while there has been progress to get this working,
it has never been merged (or submitted for potential merging) to
OpenWrt. (It's pretty complex, you'd need to build two image, one
lantiq, and a specially crafted initramfs image for ath79, using a
special configuration conduit between them, to initialize and run the
wireless on the ath79 SOC). Additionally DECT and FXS of the AVM devices
is not supported by OpenWrt (DECT isn't at all, for FXS uses a different
approach than other lantiq devices).


Also something to look out for. A older, used "AVM Fritz!Box 7490" might
have those QCA9880-AR1A (aka QCA9880v1) - the 3x3 5Ghz 802.11ac Wifi.
Support for these early and buggy chips have been dropped by upstream
ath10k and any attempt to add support back have been met with "silence".

Cheers,
Christian

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Re: Best VSDL modem-router to target?

2021-12-03 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
Hi

On 2021-12-03, Andrew Punch wrote:
> Spoke too soon Fritzbox 7490 has been discontinued. Might be able to 
> get one from the US if I use the freight forwarder but I don't like my 
> chances.

The Fritz!Box 7490 is rather special, two SOCs on one board (lantiq 
base, with an ath79 board dealing with the wireless on top and special
VLANs between them), while there has been progress to get this working,
it has never been merged (or submitted for potential merging) to 
OpenWrt. (It's pretty complex, you'd need to build two image, one 
lantiq, and a specially crafted initramfs image for ath79, using a 
special configuration conduit between them, to initialize and run the
wireless on the ath79 SOC). Additionally DECT and FXS of the AVM devices
is not supported by OpenWrt (DECT isn't at all, for FXS uses a different
approach than other lantiq devices).

Look at the https://openwrt.org/toh/bt/homehub_v5a - that's still
pretty much the best modem-router combination you can get (be aware
of the performance limits of lantiq vr9 and the supported profiles,
vectoring, but not super-vectoring) and find a different solution for
your phone requirements (ATA, VoIP-DECT base, etc.).

The forum has quite a lot of information about these devices and may
be better suited to guide you on your search.

Regards
Stefan Lippers-Hollmann


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Re: [PATCH v2] ath79: add Embedded Wireless Balin Platform

2021-12-03 Thread Christian Lamparter

Hi,

On 02/12/2021 11:07, Catrinel Catrinescu wrote:


Add the Embedded Wireless "Balin" platform, it is in ar71xx too
  SoC: QCA AR9344 or AR9350
  RAM: DDR2-RAM 64MBytes
  Flash: SPI-NOR 16MBytes
  WLAN: 2 x 2 MIMO 2.4 & 5 GHz IEEE802.11 a/b/g/n
  Ethernet: 3 x 10/100 Mb/s
  USB: 1 x USB2.0 Host/Device bootstrap-pin at power-up
  UART: 1 x Normal, 1 x High-Speed
  JTAG: 1 x EJTAG
  GPIO: 10 x Input/Output multiplexed



I'm curious, is there a problem with the mini-pcie that should be looked into?
The  19.07's ar71xx mach file did jusu enable the pcie port, we can do this too.
(The 19.07 also had a "WPS" Button, which is now RESET. But yes, I think this
is fine/better.)

In the mean time, I found a few more things (indent, unit-address of partitions)
and changed some stuff here and there.
https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/chunkeey.git;a=commit;h=24d455d1d0adf64de844b25800c23992aa3eeda5

Cheers,
Christian

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Re: Best VSDL modem-router to target?

2021-12-03 Thread Andrew Punch
Spoke too soon Fritzbox 7490 has been discontinued. Might be able to get one 
from the US if I use the freight forwarder but I don't like my chances.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Andrew Punch wrote:
> Thanks. It looks like the Fritzbox 7490 is the best option.
> 
> Is it the chipset manufacturers or modem router manufacturers not allowing 
> redistribution? Are there some regulatory issues preventing distribution? 
> What if the end user extracted the binary blob where we can't distribute it?
> 
> Is there an email in the archives or a web page that has these details - I 
> searched the archive but couldn't find anything?
> 
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, at 7:59 PM, abnoeh wrote:
> > I don't think you have any real option for that:
> > 
> > only target that support DSL modem in openwrt is lantiq but it not
> > suppot vectoring in openwrt because we have no permission to distribute
> > closed firmware so no grantain it supports your line at all.
> > 
> > https://openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_modem_supported?datasrt=availability
> > 
> > actually only thing it's in stock(not checked unknown) is FRITZ!Box 7490
> > 
> > 2021-12-03 오후 1:28에 Andrew Punch 이(가) 쓴 글:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I live in a small unit, so the usual advice to have a separate VDSL 
> > > modem, router and ATA isn't great space wise.
> > >
> > > Is there an all-in-one VDSL modem + router + ATA that would be worth 
> > > targeting?
> > >
> > > I am happy to purchase a spare one for anyone on the mailing list and I'm 
> > > a software engineer who has done minor kernel fixes.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Andrew
> > >
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Re: Best VSDL modem-router to target?

2021-12-03 Thread Andrew Punch
Thanks. It looks like the Fritzbox 7490 is the best option.

Is it the chipset manufacturers or modem router manufacturers not allowing 
redistribution? Are there some regulatory issues preventing distribution? What 
if the end user extracted the binary blob where we can't distribute it?

Is there an email in the archives or a web page that has these details - I 
searched the archive but couldn't find anything?

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, at 7:59 PM, abnoeh wrote:
> I don't think you have any real option for that:
> 
> only target that support DSL modem in openwrt is lantiq but it not
> suppot vectoring in openwrt because we have no permission to distribute
> closed firmware so no grantain it supports your line at all.
> 
> https://openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_modem_supported?datasrt=availability
> 
> actually only thing it's in stock(not checked unknown) is FRITZ!Box 7490
> 
> 2021-12-03 오후 1:28에 Andrew Punch 이(가) 쓴 글:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I live in a small unit, so the usual advice to have a separate VDSL modem, 
> > router and ATA isn't great space wise.
> >
> > Is there an all-in-one VDSL modem + router + ATA that would be worth 
> > targeting?
> >
> > I am happy to purchase a spare one for anyone on the mailing list and I'm a 
> > software engineer who has done minor kernel fixes.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Andrew
> >
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