Re: [opnfv-tsc] [opnfv-tech-discuss] Performance testing as a part of the OVP process

2020-07-07 Thread Alec via lists.opnfv.org
a channel on there for these discussions too. opnfv.slack.com<http://opnfv.slack.com> Cheers, Lincoln On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 11:02 AM Alec via lists.opnfv.org<http://lists.opnfv.org> mailto:cisco@lists.opnfv.org>> wrote: Thanks Jack/Al I’ll try to attend if possible (6am Monday mor

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Performance testing as a part of the OVP process

2020-07-07 Thread Alec via lists.opnfv.org
://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Weekly+Technical+Discussion On 7/6/20 8:58 AM, Alec via lists.opnfv.org wrote: Hi Jim, I am interested in this topic but have no information about “Monday tech-discuss meeting”. Can you provide pointer and in case I cannot make the time is there/can we have an email

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Performance testing as a part of the OVP process

2020-07-06 Thread Alec via lists.opnfv.org
Hi Jim, I am interested in this topic but have no information about “Monday tech-discuss meeting”. Can you provide pointer and in case I cannot make the time is there/can we have an email discussion on this topic? There has been on and off informal hallway discussion on the topic of

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Invite your teammates to Slack

2020-04-23 Thread Alec via lists.opnfv.org
+1 “A bit more user friendly” is an understatement. I’ve been around quite a bit and I’m personally allergic to IRC. I was disappointed about IRC use when I started to interact with OPNFV about 5y ago. We need to realize that the new generation of younger developers tends to favor more modern

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] PTL Branch Creation

2020-02-13 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
It is still an improvement as PTLs no longer need to submit a review to the releng repo to have the branch created (and remember or find out which change to make there). This is a good step towards less process/overhead, more simplicity and more trust to the project owners. Thanks for all who

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Who from OPNFV can -2/+2 lf-releng possibly blocking all OPNFV jjb verification

2019-12-19 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
not be too difficult to get accepted. Thanks Alec From: on behalf of "Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org" Reply-To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:06 AM To: Trevor Bramwell Cc: "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org" Subject: Re: [opnfv-te

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Who from OPNFV can -2/+2 lf-releng possibly blocking all OPNFV jjb verification

2019-12-18 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
process and for these cases we should just trust PTLs and let then manage their repo directly. Thanks Alec Regards, Trevor Bramwell On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 04:56:20PM +, Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org wrote: HI Ollivier, thanks for the offer to help. We could try to fix these with jjb but

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Who from OPNFV can -2/+2 lf-releng possibly blocking all OPNFV jjb verification

2019-12-15 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
HI Ollivier, thanks for the offer to help. We could try to fix these with jjb but I think the problem is bigger and would need attention from the TSC. The only reason this dockerhub state is not too much of a problem for the project is that all users currently build their own containers

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Who from OPNFV can -2/+2 lf-releng possibly blocking all OPNFV jjb verification

2019-12-13 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
I would propose that PTLs are given permission to manage the branches for their repos directly. Those who prefer to go through jjb can do so, but we should not force everybody to go thorough JJB. I have same concern for * OPNFV dockerhub repo. I cannot manage my container versions and the

Re: [cntt-ref-imp] [opnfv-tech-discuss] RI Lab Infra. Discussion

2019-11-15 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
W configuration. You can see the attached PR for more details about this. https://github.com/cntt-n/CNTT/pull/535 中国移动研究院 网络与IT技术研究所 付乔 15901025951 From: Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org<mailto:ahothan=cisco@lists.opnfv.org> Date: 2019-11-14 23:58 To: Rao, Sr

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] RI Lab Infra. Discussion

2019-11-14 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Sridhar [+tech discuss list] From my knowledge, very few NFVi installers know how to configure the TOR(s) and instead just assume that some admin will go and configure the TORs in a way that is compatible with the installer’s own networking blueprint – this is one of the main areas were

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench Add Mellanox Connect X4/X5 driver to nfvbenchvm

2019-10-01 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hello Harsh, I don’t have any Mellanox NIC to test this with however you are welcome to provide a patch to add support for this NIC if you have one available for checking. I can provide you help in building the VM image if needed. Thanks Alec From: on behalf of Harsh Kotak Date:

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Can installers use CircleCI?

2019-08-03 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
pnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>> on behalf of Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org mailto:ahothan=cisco@lists.opnfv.org>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 5:53 PM To: Manuel Buil Cc: opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tsc] Can installers use CircleCI?

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench - Looking for line rate performances using NFVbench - UPDATED

2019-08-01 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Pierrick, Thanks for sending this detailed report. I think the anomalies you are seeing may be due to the choice of NIC card. Not that the Mellanox NIC is bad but it is a NIC that not many people have tested NFVbench with yet. I am copying Michael as he may have used this same Mellanox NIC

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [vsperf] VSPERF weekly meeting - 17 Jul 2019 (ww106)

2019-07-17 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Sridhar, Unfortunately I may not be able to join at the Wednesday morning slot. I really wish there was more email discussion in the test working group about any topic like this one. If you can provide meeting minutes that would be helpful. Thanks Alec From: "Rao, Sridhar" Date:

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Experimenting Cloud Service (GitHub + CircleCI) Recommended by TAC Infra WG

2019-06-10 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
ite.yml https://git.opnfv.org/releng/tree/jjb/functest/functest-kubernetes.yaml @Alec: please add me as reviewer of your changes in releng. Cédric Le ven. 7 juin 2019 à 22:21, Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org<http://Lists.Opnfv.Org> mailto:cisco@lists.opnfv.org>> a écrit : I would be in

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Experimenting Cloud Service (GitHub + CircleCI) Recommended by TAC Infra WG

2019-06-07 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
I would be interested to participate (NFVbench project). I am actually willing to try anything that moves us away from releng repo and JJB. I would like to point out that the current CI/CD based on Jenkins is not providing sufficient permission for PTLs to customize as almost every aspect of

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-project-leads] Hunter reelease community awards #hunter # release #awards

2019-06-03 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
I’d like to nominate Cedric Ollivier for the “Testing” and “Integration” categories. Cedric has been leading the Functest project and made it the most solid and widely used opnfv test project in and outside OPNFV. This is not easy task as it integrates a number of other open source projects

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench L3 traffic use case

2019-05-31 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Thanks for finding this, I missed updating the version in Dockerfile and I need to push the 0.8 qcow2 image to the opnfv google storage as well. I am fixing it but just noticed that the CI/CD for building the VM and uploading to google storage is not triggering any more ;-( So need to fix that

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench L3 traffic use case

2019-05-29 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Francois, The packet passing traffic verification code checks that we receive at least one packet from each VNF on each port. This check is done by getting the packet src MAC and comparing against the VNF MAC in local list (otherwise obtained from Openstack API or from a config). This works

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Any possibility to open up OPNFV Jira access to external public? #releng

2019-05-28 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
I have opened a ticket for this. I thought this was a general login policy for all projects. Thanks for help me realize this is specific to my project! Alec -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#23188):

[opnfv-tech-discuss] Any possibility to open up OPNFV Jira access to external public? #releng

2019-05-28 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Is there any specific issue to allow access of OPNFV Jira (https://jira.opnfv.org) to the public or does anybody remember why this is currently reserved for registered opnfv users? I think it would be nice to have public read only access if we want to encourage more participation from outside

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench L3 traffic use case

2019-05-23 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Francois, Just a general follow up on the feature patchset review, I think it would be great to extend support for an L3 router on the packet path, that would work independently of how the devices in the packet path are brought up (either by nfvbench using PVP/PVVP or externally with EXT

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Hunter release MS8 - 11, week of May 6 #hunter #release

2019-05-10 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
David, I would like to point out that practically all links provided in the tables point to master branch, for example: https://git.opnfv.org/fuel/tree/docs when it should be most likely be https://git.opnfv.org/fuel/tree/docs?h=stable%2Fhunter Unless it is implicit that all these links

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench IP command not found on docker bash

2019-04-05 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Francois, Quite possible a side effect of remove socketIO. We mostly use centos/rhel distro to test NFVbench and I have not tested the latest commits on ubuntu so this may be specific to Ubuntu docker images. Unfortunately a simple gerrit verification to just run nfvbench with trex requires

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Hunter MS7 - stable branch scheduled for March 29 #hunter #release

2019-03-31 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi David, I have not created a hunter branch for nfvbench because I‘m not sure of how useful it would be for this project. The nfvbench project already has its own versioning and container deliverables versioned accordingly in dockerhub at a pace that is a lot faster than the typical opnfv

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench - Request TRex upgrade for using it with virtio multiple queues

2019-02-25 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Francois, Upgrading TRex to a newer version has been done about a month ago in a private workspace but not upstreamed yet as it was using a private Trex branch provided by the Trex team. It was not the latest as of today but definitely a version that had the reorg of the Trex libraries. I

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [test-wg] Future Testing WG meeting logistics was{RE: status of test working group meeting?}

2019-02-21 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
elow. From: test...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:test...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 8:19 PM To: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) ; David McBride ; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org Cc: test...@lists.opnfv.org Subject: Re: [test-wg] Future Testing WG meeti

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench TRex restart

2019-02-21 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Francois, You are welcome to submit a patch for this, Thanks Alec From: on behalf of François-Régis MENGUY Date: Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:37 AM To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" , GRALL Xavier TGI/OLN Cc: "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org" Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss]

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench TRex restart

2019-02-20 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
The detection of config changes requiring Trex restart is ideal but is a bit tricky. Let me try to describe the various ramification of such change. A nfvbench container can operate in 2 modes: cli only or cli + rest server. Most of the code is common between cli and rest, but the bootstrap is

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [test-wg] Future Testing WG meeting logistics was{RE: status of test working group meeting?}

2019-02-19 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Is there a recurring meeting invite still ongoing? I don’t see the meeting in my calendar any more (last one was Dec 27). Alec From: on behalf of Al Morton Date: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:09 PM To: David McBride , "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org" Cc: "Foley, Emma L" , "Yuyang

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench Add TRex parameters to tune performance and allocate ressources

2019-02-18 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Francois, Thanks for the information and good to see it is working with 2 instances. Note that you no longer need to provide the interface speed in the nfvbench configuration as it is automatically discovered from the NIC driver. Thanks for the commit, it looks good and has been just

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench Add TRex parameters to tune performance and allocate ressources

2019-02-13 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Francois, Can you provide some results on how you could scale trex (i.e. how many instances and how many cores per instance, how well you could scale the pps with/without optimization). Thanks Alec From: "francoisregis.men...@orange.com" Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:33 AM

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Code and Release improvements

2019-02-12 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
enable it in Functest. Cédric De : opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org [opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org] de la part de Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org [ahothan=cisco@lists.opnfv.org] Envoyé : samedi 9 février 2019 04:08 À : Manuel Buil; Cristina Pauna; opnfv-tech-disc

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Code and Release improvements

2019-02-08 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
I do not disagree on the general benefits of having multiple reviewers for every commit, no question about it. If you can afford it – go for it. However, I would like to point out that for most low-key or “niche” projects with few committers, a rule to enforce dual review and forbid self

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench Add TRex parameters to tune performance and allocate ressources

2019-01-18 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Inline… From: "francoisregis.men...@orange.com" Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 1:24 AM To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" Cc: "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org" Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench Add TRex parameters to tune performance and allocate ressources In fact we had the case

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench Add TRex parameters to tune performance and allocate ressources

2019-01-12 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
That is an interesting use case although we need to make clear that running multiple instances on the same server will likely not provide linear performance increase. Can you provide more information about your concurrency target? I.e. how many instances are you planning to run and on what

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench No admin support patch proposal

2019-01-10 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Francois, Thanks for your commit! https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/66299/ I have added a new tag 3.0.5 to trigger a build of a new container image with your changes in dockerhub. Best Regards, Alec -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench No admin support patch proposal

2019-01-08 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Francois, I think that would be a good enhancement. Adding new config options to enforce certain values and skip some openstack API calls looks fine. I would just add that recent changes in NFVbench (starting 2.0) allow now to pass an explicit AZ or hostname (so there is no longer any code

[opnfv-tech-discuss] Infra Evolution: Labs

2018-12-13 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
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Re: [SUSPICIOUS] Re: [SUSPICIOUS] Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Infra Evolution: Labs

2018-12-13 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
olution: Labs Hi All, Responses in line below as well. Cheers, Lincoln On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:33 PM Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org<http://secure-web.cisco.com/1AnOHp9f7ZkElBLwoF1maNGM796Xhi5r2121IPnxRD270gbM5DYAoJC-L3g_F9TYGmn8QvbW33LGtbnl92bRgyxrQhw3iP8ZCPfhoHt9YTZvs3g3fwogIX1ulH-JV-87ED

Re: [SUSPICIOUS] Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Infra Evolution: Labs

2018-12-12 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi All, Responses in line below as well. Cheers, Lincoln On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:33 PM Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org<http://secure-web.cisco.com/1QDOy77mw30DyO09FK3MkceVCMtCJ4gLVYN_RPMqmErDebfi_AaUxOOLWZN_K__Lwn26phigDszFkEHnXxpK24GjfFTTV96ARycXFfP_pu6b9d6R1oNMr6H5lZzF4yU3Bj5PJy5opIaRs

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [OPNFV Helpdesk #65232] Please add new contributor to #nfvbench project

2018-12-10 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Thanks Aric! Good to see that it is not restricted to any specific project. Alec > On Dec 10, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Aric Gardner via RT > wrote: > > Hi Francois, > > I've sent you an invitation to join the opnfv-gerrit-contributors group. Once > you accept you should have permissions to

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Infra Evolution: Labs

2018-12-07 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Trevor, Inline… From: on behalf of Trevor Bramwell Date: Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 4:47 PM To: "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org" Subject: [SUSPICIOUS] [opnfv-tech-discuss] Infra Evolution: Labs Hi all, The TSC tasked the Infra-WG to create a proposal for evolving the

[opnfv-tech-discuss] Please add new contributor to #nfvbench project

2018-12-06 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hello, Could you please add Francois as a new contributor to the nfvbench project. His LF account: fmenguy Full Name: Francois Regis Menguy Email: francoisregis.men...@orange.com Thank You Alec -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan

2018-11-30 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
I’d like to add some comments on the LaaS side. I have been frustrated about how difficult it is to run simple data plane benchmarks on any OPNFV openstack deployment. There is a large diversity of hardware, wiring blueprints, installers, with different lab teams that makes it difficult to

[opnfv-tech-discuss] #opnfv-tech-discuss Intent to Participate in the OPNFV Hunter Release #release #hunter

2018-11-06 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
I’d like to announce the participation of the NFVbench project to the Hunter release / continuous delivery track. Thank You Alec -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#22293):

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench Issues with NFVBench

2018-09-25 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Hi Frederic, see inline... On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 03:32 PM, Frederic Dang Tran wrote: > > [sorry for the duplicate email] >   > Hello: >   > I run into the following problems with NFVbench: > > > * negative drop rates in NDR/PDR mode: > > > > When using nfvbench in ndr_pdr mode with a

[opnfv-tech-discuss] #nfvbench email test

2018-09-25 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
(please ignore – just testing the hashtag) Alec -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#22087): https://lists.opnfv.org/g/opnfv-tech-discuss/message/22087 Mute This Topic: https://lists.opnfv.org/mt/26224745/21656 Mute #nfvbench:

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [SUSPICIOUS] Re: [opnfv-tsc] [announce][election] Opening nominations for OPNFV Technical Steering Committee (TSC)

2018-09-07 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Many thanks to Trevor, I accept the nomination. Alec From: David McBride Date: Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:11 PM To: trevor cooper , "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" Cc: TSC OPNFV , TECH-DISCUSS OPNFV , Heather Kirksey , Tim Irnich , "tim.irn...@suse.com" Subject: [SUSPICIOUS] Re:

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] [announce][election] Opening nominations for OPNFV Technical Steering Committee (TSC)

2018-09-04 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
I would like to nominate Trevor Cooper (Intel) and Fatih Degirmenci (Ericsson) to the TSC. Both Trevor and Fatih have shown excellent interaction across projects and expertise in testing and release management. I am confident they will provide the best guidance to the TSC. Thank You Alec

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [plugfest][fraser] review of OPNFV plugfest report (part of joint ETSI/OPNFV report)

2018-08-30 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
There was a joint workgroup to compare 3 different benchmarking tool on the system under test used by VSPERF that is running an OVS-DPDK vswitch. The 3 tools were: VSPERF, NFVbench, External tool by Redhat The goal was to: * See how different tools differ in their results when measuring the

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Suggestion: CI/CD Release and Tagging

2018-08-16 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
suggest that you put together some slides to present to the weekly technical discussion meeting; get feedback; then make a proposal to the TSC. Thanks. David On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:25 AM Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org<http://Lists.Opnfv.Org> mailto:cisco@lists.opnfv.org>> wrote: T

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Suggestion: CI/CD Release and Tagging

2018-08-16 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Thanks for pointing that out Mark, I have been asking for this for almost 2 years and we’re finally able to do that. TBH I’m not sure what the TSC can say other than approve it since that is in direct alignment with a former TSC decision to promote the use of OPNFV project outside of OPNFV

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Continuously Releasing Test Projects

2018-08-08 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
Thanks for starting this discussion Trevor. There are several purposes of test projects in OPNFV (with some test projects serving multiple purposes) * Gate an OPNFV releases (meaning they are used to validate OPNFV releases of installers and features), example: Functest * Test an

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] x86 POD for Auto Project

2018-07-02 Thread Alec via Lists.Opnfv.Org
please do not divert pod19, it is planned to be used for testing projects. We can certainly share it with Auto when not in use. The main requirement for pod19 is that we can rely on having a stable bare metal installer/openstack on it so we can regress on test projects – i.e. pod19 should not