Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Red-lined TSC Charter Document

2018-04-10 Thread Raymond Paik 
Frank,

We can also lock the wiki page so that only 1-2 people can have edit access.

Thanks,

Ray

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:55 AM, Frank Brockners (fbrockne) <
fbroc...@cisco.com> wrote:

> The discussion hints at a problem that the current proposal in the
> red-lined TSC charter doc has:
>
> The charter refers to a wiki page that anyone with an LF account ID is
> free to edit (remember the early days, where we had folks “changing” the
> content of project proposals post the project approval..)
>
>
> IMHO we should use the contents of the wiki https://wiki.opnfv.org/
> display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure to create a pdf document which
> would then be posted on opnfv.org. The Charter should refer to that
> document instead of the wiki.
>
> Thanks, Frank
>
>
>
> *From:* opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org <
> opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org> *On Behalf Of *Raymond Paik
> *Sent:* Mittwoch, 4. April 2018 17:45
> *To:* Julien <julien...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org; opnfv-tech-discuss <
> opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Red-lined TSC Charter
> Document
>
>
>
> Good catch Julien.  I used "organization" as TSC members could come from
> research institutions, universities, etc. that are not (for profit)
> companies.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Julien <julien...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>
>
>
> *"Cap per company:*
>
> ·   *Each organization can have a maximum of 2 TSC reps." in
> url: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure
> <https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure> *
>
>
>
> I would suggest using the same word for company and organization in this
> description, and maybe company here is better.
>
>
>
>
>
> BR,
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> Raymond Paik <rp...@linuxfoundation.org>于2018年4月4日周三 上午7:49写道：
>
> Just update the wiki page incorporating Wenjing's feedback.  Take a look
> at the TSC Chair election section at https://wiki.opnfv.org/
> display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure and let me know if there are
> other questions/feedback.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Raymond Paik <rp...@linuxfoundation.org>
> wrote:
>
> Wenjing:
>
>
>
> Good points.  Yes, I'll go ahead and update the wiki in the next few days.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Wenjing Chu <wenjing@huawei.com>
> wrote:
>
> In the wiki page: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+
> Election+Procedure:
>
>
>
> The TSC member election is scheduled on “mid-September” with flexibility,
> but the TSC chair wording is still hard-coded to September 7. I think that
> should be modified to be consistent – so that the newly elected TSC members
> choose the Chair, not the outgoing TSC.
>
>
>
> If that is indeed the intent here, which I assume so, then we should
> revise the wiki text as soon as possible.
>
>
>
> Another problem with the wiki section related to Chair election is its
> reference to the OPNFV By-Law
>
> ” (per section 5.5(b) of the OPNFV Bylaws
> <https://www.opnfv.org/about/bylaws-and-policies/bylaws>)”.
>
> That is no longer valid. We should refer to the OPNFV Technical Charter
> (or LFN’s) instead.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Wenjing
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:
> opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] *On Behalf Of *Raymond Paik
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:12 PM
> *To:* opnfv-tech-discuss <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>;
> opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org
> *Subject:* [opnfv-tech-discuss] Red-lined TSC Charter Document
>
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> Please find attached red-lined TSC Charter document that reflects OPNFV's
> move to a merit-based TSC. The new text was heavily borrowed from 
> OpenDaylight's
> Charter
> <https://www.opendaylight.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2018/01/ODL-Technical-Charter-LF-Projects-LLC-FINAL.pdf>
>  as
> they already migrated to a merit-based TSC.  The details on size,
> eligibility, election timing, etc. will be updated on the wiki if/when
> community decides to make any tweaks.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions/feedback.  The plan is to
> vote on this during the TSC meeting April 10th (after ~2 week review
> period).
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Ray
>
>
>
>
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Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Red-lined TSC Charter Document

2018-04-10 Thread Frank Brockners (fbrockne) 
The discussion hints at a problem that the current proposal in the red-lined 
TSC charter doc has:
The charter refers to a wiki page that anyone with an LF account ID is free to 
edit (remember the early days, where we had folks “changing” the content of 
project proposals post the project approval..)

IMHO we should use the contents of the wiki 
https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure to create a pdf 
document which would then be posted on opnfv.org. The Charter should refer to 
that document instead of the wiki.
Thanks, Frank

From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org 
<opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org> On Behalf Of Raymond Paik
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. April 2018 17:45
To: Julien <julien...@gmail.com>
Cc: opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org; opnfv-tech-discuss 
<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Red-lined TSC Charter Document

Good catch Julien.  I used "organization" as TSC members could come from 
research institutions, universities, etc. that are not (for profit) companies.

Thanks,

Ray

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Julien 
<julien...@gmail.com<mailto:julien...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Ray,

"Cap per company:
·   Each organization can have a maximum of 2 TSC reps." in url: 
https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure

I would suggest using the same word for company and organization in this 
description, and maybe company here is better.


BR,
Julien

Raymond Paik 
<rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>>于2018年4月4日周三 
上午7:49写道：
Just update the wiki page incorporating Wenjing's feedback.  Take a look at the 
TSC Chair election section at 
https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure and let me know 
if there are other questions/feedback.

Thanks,

Ray

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Raymond Paik 
<rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
Wenjing:

Good points.  Yes, I'll go ahead and update the wiki in the next few days.

Thanks,

Ray

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Wenjing Chu 
<wenjing@huawei.com<mailto:wenjing@huawei.com>> wrote:
In the wiki page: 
https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure:

The TSC member election is scheduled on “mid-September” with flexibility, but 
the TSC chair wording is still hard-coded to September 7. I think that should 
be modified to be consistent – so that the newly elected TSC members choose the 
Chair, not the outgoing TSC.

If that is indeed the intent here, which I assume so, then we should revise the 
wiki text as soon as possible.

Another problem with the wiki section related to Chair election is its 
reference to the OPNFV By-Law
” (per section 5.5(b) of the OPNFV 
Bylaws<https://www.opnfv.org/about/bylaws-and-policies/bylaws>)”.
That is no longer valid. We should refer to the OPNFV Technical Charter (or 
LFN’s) instead.

Regards
Wenjing



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Subject: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Red-lined TSC Charter Document

All,

Please find attached red-lined TSC Charter document that reflects OPNFV's move 
to a merit-based TSC. The new text was heavily borrowed from OpenDaylight's 
Charter<https://www.opendaylight.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2018/01/ODL-Technical-Charter-LF-Projects-LLC-FINAL.pdf>
 as they already migrated to a merit-based TSC.  The details on size, 
eligibility, election timing, etc. will be updated on the wiki if/when 
community decides to make any tweaks.

Please let me know if you have any questions/feedback.  The plan is to vote on 
this during the TSC meeting April 10th (after ~2 week review period).

Thanks,

Ray


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Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Red-lined TSC Charter Document

2018-04-04 Thread Raymond Paik 
Good catch Julien.  I used "organization" as TSC members could come from
research institutions, universities, etc. that are not (for profit)
companies.

Thanks,

Ray

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Julien  wrote:

> Hi Ray,
>
> *"Cap per company:*
>
>- *Each organization can have a maximum of 2 TSC reps." in url: 
> **https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure
> *
>
>
> I would suggest using the same word for company and organization in this
> description, and maybe company here is better.
>
>
> BR,
> Julien
>
> Raymond Paik 于2018年4月4日周三 上午7:49写道：
>
>> Just update the wiki page incorporating Wenjing's feedback.  Take a look
>> at the TSC Chair election section at https://wiki.opnfv.org/
>> display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure and let me know if there are
>> other questions/feedback.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Raymond Paik 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wenjing:
>>>
>>> Good points.  Yes, I'll go ahead and update the wiki in the next few
>>> days.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Wenjing Chu 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 In the wiki page: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+
 Election+Procedure:



 The TSC member election is scheduled on “mid-September” with
 flexibility, but the TSC chair wording is still hard-coded to September 7.
 I think that should be modified to be consistent – so that the newly
 elected TSC members choose the Chair, not the outgoing TSC.



 If that is indeed the intent here, which I assume so, then we should
 revise the wiki text as soon as possible.



 Another problem with the wiki section related to Chair election is its
 reference to the OPNFV By-Law

 ” (per section 5.5(b) of the OPNFV Bylaws
 )”.

 That is no longer valid. We should refer to the OPNFV Technical Charter
 (or LFN’s) instead.



 Regards

 Wenjing







 *From:* opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:
 opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] *On Behalf Of *Raymond Paik
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:12 PM
 *To:* opnfv-tech-discuss ;
 opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org
 *Subject:* [opnfv-tech-discuss] Red-lined TSC Charter Document



 All,



 Please find attached red-lined TSC Charter document that reflects
 OPNFV's move to a merit-based TSC. The new text was heavily borrowed from 
 OpenDaylight's
 Charter
 
  as
 they already migrated to a merit-based TSC.  The details on size,
 eligibility, election timing, etc. will be updated on the wiki if/when
 community decides to make any tweaks.



 Please let me know if you have any questions/feedback.  The plan is to
 vote on this during the TSC meeting April 10th (after ~2 week review
 period).



 Thanks,



 Ray

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Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Red-lined TSC Charter Document

2018-04-04 Thread Julien 
Hi Ray,

*"Cap per company:*

   - *Each organization can have a maximum of 2 TSC reps." in url:
**https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure
    *


I would suggest using the same word for company and organization in this
description, and maybe company here is better.


BR,
Julien

Raymond Paik 于2018年4月4日周三 上午7:49写道：

> Just update the wiki page incorporating Wenjing's feedback.  Take a look
> at the TSC Chair election section at
> https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure and let
> me know if there are other questions/feedback.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Raymond Paik 
> wrote:
>
>> Wenjing:
>>
>> Good points.  Yes, I'll go ahead and update the wiki in the next few days.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Wenjing Chu 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In the wiki page:
>>> https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Community+Election+Procedure:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The TSC member election is scheduled on “mid-September” with
>>> flexibility, but the TSC chair wording is still hard-coded to September 7.
>>> I think that should be modified to be consistent – so that the newly
>>> elected TSC members choose the Chair, not the outgoing TSC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If that is indeed the intent here, which I assume so, then we should
>>> revise the wiki text as soon as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another problem with the wiki section related to Chair election is its
>>> reference to the OPNFV By-Law
>>>
>>> ” (per section 5.5(b) of the OPNFV Bylaws
>>> )”.
>>>
>>> That is no longer valid. We should refer to the OPNFV Technical Charter
>>> (or LFN’s) instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Wenjing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:
>>> opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] *On Behalf Of *Raymond Paik
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:12 PM
>>> *To:* opnfv-tech-discuss ;
>>> opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org
>>> *Subject:* [opnfv-tech-discuss] Red-lined TSC Charter Document
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find attached red-lined TSC Charter document that reflects
>>> OPNFV's move to a merit-based TSC. The new text was heavily borrowed from 
>>> OpenDaylight's
>>> Charter
>>> 
>>>  as
>>> they already migrated to a merit-based TSC.  The details on size,
>>> eligibility, election timing, etc. will be updated on the wiki if/when
>>> community decides to make any tweaks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions/feedback.  The plan is to
>>> vote on this during the TSC meeting April 10th (after ~2 week review
>>> period).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>
>>
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