Thanks Niclas for bringing up the issue! FWIW - I think Github is basically what OPS4J set out to be code-contribution-wise. IMHO going back to Apache is a matter of the community deciding if the barriers for governance/contribution are lower now. Otherwise - I think just moving everything to Github - only would be the lowest-threshold option here.
/peter On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:50:52 AM UTC+1, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > > Imho, we should switch everything to github. I wouldn't even bother > paying for a domain, i think something like ops4j.github.org is enough. > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel <toni....@rebaze.com > <javascript:>> a écrit : > >> *TL/TR:* >> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used >> atm). >> >> *Long version:* >> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with >> OPS4J in general. >> >> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get >> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was >> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the >> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including >> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, Pax >> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals >> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles >> got to life.. but oh well. >> >> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and exam >> - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is just >> that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc. >> >> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come >> to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options): >> >> - keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the >> Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this means >> I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too >> btw). >> It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities >> backing >> this anyway. >> - Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear >> who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring to >> spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control. >> - Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an entity >> that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not sure of >> this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance. >> - Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache. >> Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property) >> >> wdyt? >> Toni >> >> >> >> >> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com <https://www.rebaze.com> | growing developer >> culture* >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >> jeanbapti...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Hi Niclas >>> >>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing 😀). >>> >>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them. >>> >>> Thoughts ? >>> >>> Regards >>> JB >>> >>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org >>> <javascript:>> a écrit : >>> >>>> Everyone, >>>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for renewal. >>>> And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no longer >>>> participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But where >>>> to?? >>>> >>>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a >>>> trusted community member. >>>> >>>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. 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