Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-06 Thread Randy Bush
> ​Why anyone would need BMP wrapper to monitor IGP ? probably similar reasons that folk seem to need bgp-ls to get the is-is/ospf databases. is-is and ospf have decades of complexity layered on un-simple bases. so we seek yet another layer of gunk through which to see them more 'simply.' i wou

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-06 Thread Robert Raszuk
​Why anyone would need BMP wrapper to monitor IGP ? BGP has been recently polluted enough that it works just perfectly fine without a new draft/rfc or single line of code change to act as IGP monitoring protocol. Just enable AFI 16388 / SAFI 71 as described in RFC7752 (possibly with many additio

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-05 Thread Randy Bush
robin, > It is not described clearly in the draft that reusing BMP is also a > possible option for monitoring IGP. We will refine the draft. if i could also use bmp for monitoring dns, smtp, and ntp, i could stop using nagios! i think what acee is trying to say is that "B" in BMP does not stan

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-05 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Monday, July 02, 2018 9:24 PM To: Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) ; g...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt Hi Yunan, Shunwan, and Zhenbin,

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-05 Thread Lizhenbin
: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt Hi Yunan, Shunwan, and Zhenbin, What are the advantages of inventing a new protocol over just using YANG and NETCONF, RESTCONF, or gNMI? [Robin] In the draft we simply mention the d

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Lizhenbin
...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; l...@ietf.org; rt...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt i am confused as why this is in grow. it's protocol. randy ___ OPSAWG mailing

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Randy Bush
i am confused as why this is in grow. it's protocol. randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt Hi Yunan, Shunwan, and Zhenbin, What are the advantages of inventing a new protocol over just using YANG and NETCONF, RESTCONF, or gNMI? [Robi

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Lizhenbin
Dept. NW) ; g...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt Hi Yunan, Shunwan, and Zhenbin, What are the advantages of inventing a new protocol over just using YANG and NETCONF, RESTCONF, or gNMI? [Robin] In

Re: [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-02 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Yunan, Shunwan, and Zhenbin, What are the advantages of inventing a new protocol over just using YANG and NETCONF, RESTCONF, or gNMI? Operators and vendors are doing this anyway. A second alternative would be to listen passively in IS-IS (or OSPF for that matter). Why would anyone want this