Re: [OPSAWG] [Gen-art] Rtgdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-06

2018-04-15 Thread Joel M. Halpern
randy, noting that the IETF has trouble with the geo-tagging of its addresses does not seem to have ANYTHING to do with demonstrating how widely used the geo-communities are. If you want to make that case, make it. But don't bring up red herrings. As you note, it is up to the WG, not to me, w

Re: [OPSAWG] [Gen-art] Rtgdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-06

2018-04-15 Thread Randy Bush
> Thus, again, you are not making a case for why the existing techniques > which are easier to implement and deploy are not sufficie3nt for the > problem. correct. i, and a couple of other ops, are making the case that communities are fairly widely used for tagging geo loc at varying granularitie

Re: [OPSAWG] [Gen-art] Rtgdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-06

2018-04-15 Thread Joel M. Halpern
Randy, I did suggest that one would update the offline data. My point was that the draft claims taht extreme timliness is needed. For IP block geolocation, timeliness on the order of a day (much shorter than the several days before the IETF when the IETF block gets turned on somewhere.) Thus,