Re: [OPSAWG] [Gen-art] Rtgdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-06
randy, noting that the IETF has trouble with the geo-tagging of its addresses does not seem to have ANYTHING to do with demonstrating how widely used the geo-communities are. If you want to make that case, make it. But don't bring up red herrings. As you note, it is up to the WG, not to me, what to ask for regarding this draft. And it is up to the ADs to judge whether this is a good thing to standardize. Yours, Joel On 4/15/18 6:53 PM, Randy Bush wrote: Thus, again, you are not making a case for why the existing techniques which are easier to implement and deploy are not sufficie3nt for the problem. correct. i, and a couple of other ops, are making the case that communities are fairly widely used for tagging geo loc at varying granularities. you are not required to agree. and you can argue the rest with someone else. ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg
Re: [OPSAWG] [Gen-art] Rtgdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-06
> Thus, again, you are not making a case for why the existing techniques > which are easier to implement and deploy are not sufficie3nt for the > problem. correct. i, and a couple of other ops, are making the case that communities are fairly widely used for tagging geo loc at varying granularities. you are not required to agree. and you can argue the rest with someone else. ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg
Re: [OPSAWG] [Gen-art] Rtgdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-06
Randy, I did suggest that one would update the offline data. My point was that the draft claims taht extreme timliness is needed. For IP block geolocation, timeliness on the order of a day (much shorter than the several days before the IETF when the IETF block gets turned on somewhere.) Thus, again, you are not making a case for why the existing techniques which are easier to implement and deploy are not sufficie3nt for the problem. Yours, Joel On 4/15/18 6:28 PM, Randy Bush wrote: I fone has geo-information, it is unlikely to change. i guess you have never noticed when you are at ietf praha and your phone says you are in seoul or whatever. it takes non-trivial ops pain to get ietf attendees geoloc to work; and sometimes we can't. when you find yourself in a hole, first thing is to stop digging. ___ Gen-art mailing list gen-...@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg
