Re: SORBS vs Tor and the world (was: List Suggestion)

2008-01-07 Thread xiando
Ok, so that problem solves the gmail problem but pretty much every spam filter at least takes in the SORBS etc. databases as a factor. Thanks though, I'll do that. SORBS was mentioned in Tor-talk July 2005 at WTH as downloadable from

Re: SORBS vs Tor and the world

2008-01-07 Thread Michael Holstein
and no involvement with SORBS idiots is required. If you don't like SORBS, don't use them. TOR doesn't try to be invisible .. if a site admin wants to block anonymous ($whatever) .. they're free to do so, and SORBS just makes it easier (the TOR dnsbl). Statistically speaking, the volume

What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread dr . _no
Hi, i'm changing my public IP number ten times per day and to avoid confusion, i'm stopping my TOR server before and starting after the number change. But after the start TOR is very slow. Is there a better way to tell the TOR server that the public IP has changed? Greets

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hek
i'm changing my public IP number ten times per day and to avoid confusion, i'm stopping my TOR server before and starting after the number change. But after the start TOR is very slow. Is there a better way to tell the TOR server that the public IP has changed? Tor will detect it and

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread Scott Bennett
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:55:36 +0100 Tom Hek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm changing my public IP number ten times per day and to avoid confusion, *Ten times per day?* Please tell us again why it is you're bothering to run a tor server if you also feel you have to hide its existence.

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Bennett schrieb: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:55:36 +0100 Tom Hek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm changing my public IP number ten times per day and to avoid confusion, *Ten times per day?* Please tell us again why it is you're

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread dr . _no
Hi, On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:55:36 +0100 Tom Hek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm changing my public IP number ten times per day and to avoid confusion, *Ten times per day?* Please tell us again why it is you're bothering to run a tor server if you also feel you have to hide its

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread Hans Schnehl
Hi, On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 09:19:11PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:55:36 +0100 Tom Hek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm changing my public IP number ten times per day and to avoid confusion, *Ten times per day?* Please tell us again why

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread Olaf Selke
Hans Schnehl wrote: A word about obfuscation: If we run a tor node, we are as anonymous as Sta. Claus hiding behind sunglasses to our ISP's. If they want, they can see that we are running a router/tor-node. Actually they can hardly miss it. yes, they can't! At least for an exit gateway they

Re: SORBS vs Tor and the world

2008-01-07 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 09:33:50AM -0500, Michael Holstein wrote: and no involvement with SORBS idiots is required. If you don't like SORBS, don't use them. TOR doesn't try to be invisible .. if a site admin wants to block anonymous ($whatever) .. they're free to do so, and SORBS just

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread dr . _no
Hi, A word about obfuscation: If we run a tor node, we are as anonymous as Sta. Claus hiding behind sunglasses to our ISP's. that's clear; i'm using TOR as a mix with a transparent local http proxy which uses an ISP proxy as parent proxy, so that the exit traffic goes through two proxies

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Jan 7, 2008 4:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's clear; i'm using TOR as a mix with a transparent local http proxy which uses an ISP proxy as parent proxy, so that the exit traffic goes through two proxies and with several numbers in the X_FORWARDED_FOR header ;-) That's good

Restrict relay to internet2

2008-01-07 Thread Nathaniel Fairfield
Folks, I run a tor relay node (no exits) on my school's network. Due to their bandwidth policy, I have to limit traffic to about 1 Gb per day. Weak, I know. HOWEVER, my school is also connected to the Abilene/Internet2 backbone, and they DON'T limit bandwidth usage over Internet2!

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread dr . _no
Hi, If this or things like it continue people who see a need to block (or otherwise treat differently) users from TOR will simply run probing hosts across the tor network, wasting TOR bandwidth, and applying their tor blocks to big proxy servers. that would be useless because i do change

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread Hans Schnehl
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:52:57PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A word about obfuscation: If we run a tor node, we are as anonymous as Sta. Claus hiding behind sunglasses to our ISP's. that's clear; i'm using TOR as a mix with a transparent local http proxy which uses an ISP

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread Ringo Kamens
Changing the IPs has the added benefit of helping users behind firewalls that block tor. Comrade Ringo Kamens On Jan 7, 2008 5:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If this or things like it continue people who see a need to block (or otherwise treat differently) users from TOR will simply

Re: SORBS vs Tor and the world

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Cardwell
Nick Mathewson wrote: On the other hand, if your only goal is to block anonymous SMTP, and you agree that blocking all Tor servers is very overreaching, you might instead try looking at the more targetted DNSEL service available at http://exitlist.torproject.org/ It lets you block _exactly_

Re: SORBS vs Tor and the world

2008-01-07 Thread TOR-Admin (gpfTOR1)
Nick Mathewson schrieb: It's your server. But the last time I looked, the SORBS Tor list tried to include _all_ Tor servers, not just the ones that are configured to relay SMTP. Not all Tor servers are listed in SORBS. I believe, the listing in SORBS depends not on SMTP exit rules. The listed

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Olaf Selke wrote: | Hans Schnehl wrote: (snip) | yes, they can't! At least for an exit gateway they receive | potentially tons of abuse complaints. Very true. This is one reason why I suggest only organizations (as opposed to residential users) -

Re: What to do at IP number change?

2008-01-07 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) | i got only a snail mail with a complaint about much spam, because i started with no closed port. | Since i closed port 25 i had no complaint since more than a year :-) | And with the proxy chaining of port 80 it

Re: SORBS vs Tor and the world

2008-01-07 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 TOR-Admin (gpfTOR1) wrote: (snip) | I changed the ExitPolicity of my node and it was delisted half a year | ago. The ports 465 and 587 were open since Dez. 2007 and SORBS did | not list my server again. So it *is* selective, and not carte

Re: Restrict relay to internet2

2008-01-07 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Nathaniel Fairfield wrote: | Folks, | | I run a tor relay node (no exits) on my school's network. Due to their | bandwidth policy, I have to limit traffic to about 1 Gb per day. Weak, | I know. Weak? Not really. I'm sure home users don't