RE: Stephen Soghoian on U.S. Gov't Attitudes Toward Tor

2006-11-30 Thread Tony
:58 To: or-talk@freehaven.net Subject: Re: Stephen Soghoian on U.S. Gov't Attitudes Toward Tor On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 10:35:21AM -0500, Michael Holstein wrote: :Simple. It's okay for them to be sneaky to avoid *US* (the citizens) :from knowing what they're up to, but *NOT* okay

Re: Stephen Soghoian on U.S. Gov't Attitudes Toward Tor

2006-11-30 Thread Fergie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Michael Holstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What about the Department of the Navy that initially funded it? I >> wonder if it was pointed out in these meeting that it was the DoD that >> wanted this in the first place through the Office of Na

Re: Stephen Soghoian on U.S. Gov't Attitudes Toward Tor

2006-11-30 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 10:35:21AM -0500, Michael Holstein wrote: :Simple. It's okay for them to be sneaky to avoid *US* (the citizens) :from knowing what they're up to, but *NOT* okay when we try to hide from :them. Probably true of the people paraphrased, but I'm sure ONR folks understand if

Re: Stephen Soghoian on U.S. Gov't Attitudes Toward Tor

2006-11-30 Thread Michael Holstein
What about the Department of the Navy that initially funded it? I wonder if it was pointed out in these meeting that it was the DoD that wanted this in the first place through the Office of Naval Research and DARPA? Simple. It's okay for them to be sneaky to avoid *US* (the citizens) from know

Re: Stephen Soghoian on U.S. Gov't Attitudes Toward Tor

2006-11-30 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 03:30:27PM +0100, George W. Maschke wrote: : at least the two represented at the meeting, strongly disapprove of : Tor - and in particular, thought that research universities such as : IU, MIT, Georgia Tech, Harvard and others : have no

Stephen Soghoian on U.S. Gov't Attitudes Toward Tor

2006-11-30 Thread George W. Maschke
University of Indiana graduate student Stephen Soghoian, against whom the U.S. Government considered filing criminal charges stemming from an airline boarding pass generator that he posted on-line, in the 28 November 2006 entry of his weblog,/ slight paranoia