Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-30 Thread M
Why tor is banned in Finland? it's just unimaginable!!! I don't think that it is banned. Police just does not understand proxies and thinks that traffic going through the proxy was originated from the proxy and that the proxys administrator is downloading everything that in reality just goes

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-29 Thread Scott Bennett
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:42:16 -0800 F. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) If someone would ask me for a password, i would spam, tell wrong passwords, to waste his time, which could be used to ask others for passwords ;-) In the United States, knowingly giving

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-29 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Bennett wrote: In the United States, knowingly giving false information to a federal law enforcement officer is a felony, so as soon as they found out you had deceived them, they would likely charge you with that crime. That sounds a

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-29 Thread Marc Erickson
Lying to any federal employee in the US is a crime. Marc On Jan 29, 2008 11:16 AM, Scott Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:15:12 +0100 Alexander W. Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Bennett wrote: In the United States, knowingly giving false

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-29 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:15:12 +0100 Alexander W. Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Bennett wrote: In the United States, knowingly giving false information to a federal law enforcement officer is a felony, so as soon as they found out you had deceived them, they would likely

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-28 Thread Matthew MacGregor
- Original Message - From: F. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: or-talk@freehaven.net Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Tor operator raided in Finland -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) If someone would ask me for a password, i would spam

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-28 Thread Rochester TOR Admin
We're all very sorry to hear about your hassles. I hope the authorities realize there is nothing they can find and that issue is resolved quickly. Thank you for being an exit node and running a server. (This, BTW, is exactly why I run my node as middleman-only; it's just too risky for a home

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-28 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) If someone would ask me for a password, i would spam, tell wrong passwords, to waste his time, which could be used to ask others for passwords ;-) (snip) If the authorities tried to get encryption passphrases out

Ethical considerations about parent proxies for Tor exit nodes [Was: Tor operator raided in Finland]

2008-01-28 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sometimes, when a Tor user does something illegal with Tor, the exit node operator of the exit node the Tor user was using is blamed. if you use a transparent proxy plus a provider proxy as parent proxy for your

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-28 Thread Niels Grewe
On 28.01.2008 at 20:10 Matthew MacGregor wrote: I have no knowledge of the fact, but is there not some provision in the laws of any countries with these crypto laws to deal with the, I forgot defense. Because I can see every single person being asked for their passphrase to use this

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-28 Thread dr . _no
Hi, i know that there's a RIPA act in UK, but some laws are illegal, e. g. the Nuremberg Laws, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws, and they doe not affect the international laws and do not impress international courts like the European Court of Justice,

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-28 Thread dr . _no
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) If someone would ask me for a password, i would spam, tell wrong passwords, to waste his time, which could be used to ask others for passwords ;-) (snip) If the authorities tried to get encryption passphrases out of me - and I didn't want them to

Re: Ethical considerations about parent proxies for To r exit nodes [Was: Tor operator raided in Finland]

2008-01-28 Thread dr . _no
Hi, Sometimes, when a Tor user does something illegal with Tor, the exit node operator of the exit node the Tor user was using is blamed. if you use a transparent proxy plus a provider proxy as parent proxy for your TOR server, you can simply avoid that ;-) (snip) While that's a

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-27 Thread Dominik Schaefer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: if you use a transparent proxy plus a provider proxy as parent proxy for your TOR server, you can simply avoid that ;-) To be absolutely sure, you can restrict the TOR output to port 80 and and use transparent http proxying to port 80, plus a provider proxy as parent

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-27 Thread dr . _no
Hi, if you use a transparent proxy plus a provider proxy as parent proxy for your TOR server, you can simply avoid that ;-) To be absolutely sure, you can restrict the TOR output to port 80 and and use transparent http proxying to port 80, plus a provider proxy as parent proxy. I

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-27 Thread Florian Reitmeir
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you use a transparent proxy plus a provider proxy as parent proxy for your TOR server, you can simply avoid that ;-) To be absolutely sure, you can restrict the TOR output to port 80 and and use transparent http proxying to port 80,

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-27 Thread Andrew
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Reitmeir wrote: | | And i'm using two dozens of IP numbers in the headers of my transparent proxy, so | it's neither easy nor sure to find the IP number of my internet connection. | Another point is that logging has several flaws: The

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-27 Thread dr . _no
Hi, ... As dr no pointed out, many sites log only the IP address, not any Forwarded-For or similar headers. So while those proxies cannot be *trusted* to provide any level of obscurity or anonymity, they *might* with luck proove to be a dead end (or at least a serious obstacle) for

Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-26 Thread maillist
Hello I'm not sure if my last email reached the list but just wanted to let you know. Tor exit-node SpongeBob was raided by local police two days ago. Very rude and ignorant cops, the usual. They took all my computers and tried to take my UPS before I convinced them that it's not a computer. My

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-26 Thread Ringo Kamens
We are here to help if you need it. Solidarity, Comrade Ringo Kamens Anarchist Black Cross Northern Michigan On Jan 26, 2008 6:44 PM, maillist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I'm not sure if my last email reached the list but just wanted to let you know. Tor exit-node SpongeBob was raided

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-26 Thread dr . _no
maillist wrote: (snip) They took all my computers and tried to take my UPS before I convinced them that it's not a computer. No offense, but... LMAO! That's just sad; they can't tell a computer from a UPS... Hi, i also thought about it and it's possible to e. g. to hide a WLAN or

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-26 Thread 孙超
operator raided in Finland Hello I'm not sure if my last email reached the list but just wanted to let you know. Tor exit-node SpongeBob was raided by local police two days ago. Very rude and ignorant cops, the usual. They took all my computers and tried to take my UPS before I convinced them

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-26 Thread Kraktus
On 26/01/2008, 孙超 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If not for avoiding censorhip, why do you use tor? Tor can also help protect people's privacy. The Police should not have interrupted you if you had not done illeagal operate such as sending junk mails with tor Sometimes, when a Tor user does

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-26 Thread dr . _no
Hello I'm not sure if my last email reached the list but just wanted to let you know. Tor exit-node SpongeBob was raided by local police two days ago. Very rude and ignorant cops, the usual. They took all my computers and tried to take my UPS before I convinced them that it's not a

Re: Tor operator raided in Finland

2008-01-26 Thread dr . _no
Hi, Sometimes, when a Tor user does something illegal with Tor, the exit node operator of the exit node the Tor user was using is blamed. if you use a transparent proxy plus a provider proxy as parent proxy for your TOR server, you can simply avoid that ;-) To be absolutely sure, you can