Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-08 Thread mark485anderson
no problem, I accept yours and others assertions that a home made magnetic device won't work. It occurs to me that in any case where even one operator knows or has possession/knowledge of the keys or backups, that that information could still be gained through torture/coercion in rare cases where

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-08 Thread mark485anderson
I guess you can read one persons attack but are blind to others (friend of yours maybe?) And I thought the people on this list were against censorship, unless they, of course, are doing the censoring. On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:30:04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 05:05:27PM

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-08 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you can read one persons attack but are blind to others What attack? And I thought the people on this list were against censorship, unless they, of course, are doing the censoring. I'm trying to follow the

Re: storage privacy

2007-12-08 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander W. Janssen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you can read one persons attack but are blind to others What attack? OK, i swept back through the postings and /dev/ass wasn't nice too. Got that, Eugen? Whatever. Back to business.

AW: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-07 Thread Alfred Veith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the information. That's yet another way in which Microslop appears to have failed to keep up with the times. Fwiw vista has bitlocker, which encrypts partitions or the whole hard disk. Unfortunately it requires a

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-07 Thread Scott Bennett
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:44:23 +0600 Vlad \SATtva\ Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Bennett wrote on 05.12.2007 04:14: I have not run a tor server, so I do not know the exact requirements.= Can it be done from a ram drive? It could, but you'd need to make sure it doesn't swap/page down

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-07 Thread Vlad SATtva Miller
Scott Bennett wrote on 05.12.2007 04:14: I have not run a tor server, so I do not know the exact requirements. Can it be done from a ram drive? It could, but you'd need to make sure it doesn't swap/page down to disk, which would be bad. I'm not a LINUX user, but I would be surprised if

Re: storage privacy

2007-12-06 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 coderman wrote: On Dec 5, 2007 4:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Have you actually tested using a magnetic field for this ... despite the rudeness of some of this thread, (snip) You sure aren't kidding... sheesh! =:o\ see

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-05 Thread coderman
On Dec 5, 2007 4:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Have you actually tested using a magnetic field for this ... despite the rudeness of some of this thread, it really is difficult to properly clear / purge data from a modern hard disk using a magnetic field. we do this at work, and the

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-05 Thread phobos
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 05:05:27PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 2.6K bytes in 66 lines about: : Hey Eugene, go fuck yourself ok? Have you actually tested using a : magnetic field for this, no. : Seems to me you're the one talking out of dev/ass, cuz you are one. And : don't put it past someone

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-04 Thread mark485anderson
By full disk encryption I guess your talking about access via a pass phrase. Judge: Ok you are to be held in contempt and in jail xyz, until such time as you give us the pass phrase to your data Most data overwrite programs take too long-you do not have that time when they are knocking down your

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-04 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Judge: Ok you are to be held in contempt and in jail xyz, until such time as you give us the pass phrase to your data Only a matter of the UK at the moment. Bad enough though. Most data overwrite programs take too

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:35:49PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judge: Ok you are to be held in contempt and in jail xyz, until such time as you give us the pass phrase to your data Plausible deniability. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueCrypt Most data overwrite programs take too

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-04 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Dec 4, 2007 3:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A strong magnetic field close to the hard drive will completely destroy the data making it impossible to recover. I will also probably fuckup the drive mechanism, rendering the drive useless. If by strong you mean a super conducting magnet of

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-04 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:13:08 +0100 Alexander W. Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Judge: Ok you are to be held in contempt and in jail xyz, until such time as you give us the pass phrase to your data Only a matter of the UK at the moment. Bad enough though. Most

Re: storage privacy

2007-12-04 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander W. Janssen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: (snip) I have not run a tor server, so I do not know the exact requirements. Can it be done from a ram drive? It could, but you'd need to make sure it doesn't swap/page down to disk, which

Re: storage privacy

2007-12-04 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eugen Leitl wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:35:49PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Most data overwrite programs take too long-you do not have that time when they are knocking down your door. You have to power down the servers before

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-04 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Bennett wrote: (snip) I'm not a LINUX user, but I would be surprised if there were not some similar facility in LINUX, but I haven't the foggiest notion how one would get Windows XP to encrypt its swapping/paging file or even whether

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-02 Thread Tom Hek
On Dec 2, 2007 2:25 PM, F. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ strange, dangerous, and likely to fail methods for destroying drives ] use full disk encryption, even the latest ubuntu supports this. Last time I tried this with the Ubuntu 7.10 Alternate CD it didn't work. The installer crashes

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-02 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 coderman wrote: apologies in advance for veering this far off topic... On Dec 2, 2007 2:25 PM, F. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ strange, dangerous, and likely to fail methods for destroying drives ] use full disk encryption, even the latest

Re: storage privacy

2007-12-02 Thread Eugene Y. Vasserman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I don't think much of the aforementioned physical destruction methods; I also agree in that full disk encryption is the best way to go, if at all possible. (snip) While I don't think much of physical destruction either, the encrypted storage

Re: storage privacy (was: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??)

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Schmidt
privacy back-up storage concept: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1833093group_id=178712atid=886242 http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?t=8000 2007/12/3, F. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-