Oracle's Market share

2001-06-10 Thread Murali Vallath
Where can one find some information about Oracle's market share in the various O/S markets. Like, UNIX,LINUX,NT etc. Regards Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see

RE: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asynchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread Christopher Spence
Cached Quick IO gives you pre-fetch capabilities similar to EMC devices, of course, not nearly as good, but it certainly does help on reads. If you have Veritas license, Quick IO is great. But raw is certainly still the most effective. But Veritas gives you 95% of the advantages of Raw and

RE: Datafile Coruption

2001-06-10 Thread Christopher Spence
That would certainly work, although the time your typing, the datafile may have changed, and thus your aborting older transactions. That is if vi can even open the file as it has file open limits. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen.

Crash Recovery

2001-06-10 Thread Naik, Kevin K
Title: Crash Recovery Hi All, I have an interesting problem, on one of my databases, a data warehouse, a killed session was taking too long to rollback. It was time for the backup, and I had to do a shutdown abort. No its time to open the database, instance parallel recovery is taking place

Re: Crash Recovery

2001-06-10 Thread Jared Still
It's always a good idea to include your platform, OS version and most importantly, your Oracle version. Since it's a DW, I'm guessing that the session in question was doing parallel DML, and it's an older version of Oracle, which does not have parallel rollback capability. ( forget which

Re: Crash Recovery

2001-06-10 Thread Paul Drake
Naik, Kevin K wrote: Hi All, I have an interesting problem, on one of my databases, a data warehouse, a killed session was taking too long to rollback. It was time for the backup, and I had to do a shutdown abort. No its time to open the database, instance parallel recovery is taking

Re: Crash Recovery

2001-06-10 Thread Paul Drake
Naik, Kevin K wrote: Hi All, I have an interesting problem, on one of my databases, a data warehouse, a killed session was taking too long to rollback. It was time for the backup, and I had to do a shutdown abort. No its time to open the database, instance parallel recovery is taking

RE: Crash Recovery

2001-06-10 Thread Naik, Kevin K
Title: RE: Crash Recovery oops, forgot that, Sun Solaris 5.6, its an E6000, 16 cpu box, running dbms 7.3.4.5.0 the online redo logs are 500 megs in size the transaction used -+ 4 million records -Original Message- From: Paul Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 June, 2001 21:10

RE: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: RE: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O I could not get this URL to work, are you sure it is "platypus.com". I tried www.platypus.comand it came up with some other non-related site. I would be greatly interested in reading about this device. "Walking on water and

RE: RAID5 - to split or not to split

2001-06-10 Thread Christopher Spence
Static data raid 5 is a very good option, it has great read performance and very inexpensive. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:20 PM

Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread Paul Drake
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Re: Crash Recovery

2001-06-10 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)
Hi, Oracle was doing full recovery in older version during crash recovery ( I guess pre 7.3, but I'm not sure). But now, Oracle does not do full database recovery during crash recovery. Some un-recovered blocks are recovered when a user tries to use them later. So, if your online log files are

RE: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread Christopher Spence
AWESOME looking website Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread Paul Drake
Christopher Spence wrote: AWESOME looking website Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- From: Paul Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 10,

Re: Crash Recovery

2001-06-10 Thread Charlie Mengler
I've had something like this happen to me. My solution was to make TEMP larger; after enduring the LONG wait for recovery to complete. "Naik, Kevin K" wrote: Hi All, I have an interesting problem, on one of my databases, a data warehouse, a killed session was taking too long to rollback. It was

Re: RAID5 - to split or not to split

2001-06-10 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Since RAID5 means that data is striped, of course read performance is OK. As soon as you talk write performance, however, RAID5 becomes something of a joke since it was invented back in the 70's to offer a cheap alternative to the fast, extremely expensive disks offered by IBM back then. So the

Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread George Schlossnagle
1 for PCI NVRAM for swap and online redo I totally buy into using this sort of technology for online redo, but using it for swap just seems silly. You shouldn't be swapping anyway, and if you are it's much cheaper to buy ram than to buy a solid-state disk. 64 bit slots allow for (max) 350

Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread Paul Drake
George Schlossnagle wrote: 1 for PCI NVRAM for swap and online redo I totally buy into using this sort of technology for online redo, but using it for swap just seems silly. You shouldn't be swapping anyway, and if you are it's much cheaper to buy ram than to buy a solid-state

Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread George Schlossnagle
Hmmm so it's a pci only interface, so I can't use it with my Enterprise Sun systems, and drivers for Tru64 don't yet exist, so unless you're running Windoze, AIX or Linux, you're out of luck. That's a real bummer. Anyone use Imperial's solid state disks? I played with them at a clients

Re: Crash Recovery

2001-06-10 Thread Jared Still
Kevin, First off, I cc'd the list on this. When posting a question to the list, it's a good idea to include the list in any replies, as there's a lot of good folks there. The respondent ( me in this case :) may not have good information. For instance, I don't have access to any 7.3 docs. I

Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread George Schlossnagle
George, Agreed about it being silly for swap on a *nix box, but if you're running on a brain-dead OS that is going to page stuff out uncontrollably (NT/W2K) even with lots of available memory - its still a good idea to give the OS some pagefile space on NVRAM. Ahh My lack of knowledge of

Re: Oracle 9i V$VERSION and changes to the system views for 9i

2001-06-10 Thread Paul Drake
Rachel, there is that small issue of not having a solaris box - and 9i for wintel or Linux won't be out for awhile ... didn't see anything I liked on Ebay in Sun hardware, either. Paul Rachel Carmichael wrote: Paul, the export worked... now import it into a different schema, if all

Re: RAID5 - to split or not to split

2001-06-10 Thread Jared Still
On Sunday 10 June 2001 16:15, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: It becomes really absurd when you look at the SAN offerings on the market. For instance, IBM's Shark only offers the customer the choice between JBOD (Just a Bunch Of Disks, ie., Non-RAID) and RAID5. IBM has a red book out regarding this

RAID5 question, take 2

2001-06-10 Thread Gary Weber
The reply below was a great post! As were replies prior to it. But, none of the replies were for the original question. The issue in hand is not which raid level to use or whether to use at all. The question is, and I promise this is the very last time I post it: given 9 hard drives dedicated

Re: RAID5 question, take 2

2001-06-10 Thread Jared Still
On Sunday 10 June 2001 20:15, Gary Weber wrote: The question is, and I promise this is the very last time I post it: given 9 hard drives dedicated for RAID5, should data reside on 6 drives via volume group A and indexes on the other 3 drives via volume group B, or should data and indexes be

Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

2001-06-10 Thread Jared Still
On Sunday 10 June 2001 14:35, Paul Drake wrote: http://www.platypustechnology.com/default2.asp Interesting product. This would be great for redo logs. I can't help picking at one of their 'success' stories however. This is from their website: This customer

Re: RAID5 question, take 2

2001-06-10 Thread Paul Drake
Gary, Here is where we have to know more details. a 9 drive array on a single channel sounds like your peak I/O rate for reads would be throttled by the controller channel speed. Now, if the SCSI interface is ultra 160/m, and the drive support a sustained rate of 20 MB/sec - you're not pinched.

RE: primary/ foreign key constraints for oltp, overhead?...soluti

2001-06-10 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Thanks to all who replied. following is what I have gathered after some rd: - locks Oracle generates internal locks on dict tables to maintain the data integrity. e.g.: I deleted a record from detail table in one session. In another session I tried to delete a master record not related to the

RE: primary/ foreign key constraints for oltp, overhead?...soluti

2001-06-10 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Thanks to all who replied. following is what I have gathered after some rd: - locks Oracle generates internal locks on dict tables to maintain the data integrity. e.g.: I deleted a record from detail table in one session. In another session I tried to delete a master record not related to the

Index organised tables any limitations?

2001-06-10 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Hi, I need some info regarding if there are any limitations in using index organised tables compared to normal tables. Moreover, what is the deciding factor to be considered to give preference to an index organised table over a normal table. on oracle 8.1.7 rgds amar -- Please see the

Index organised tables any limitations?

2001-06-10 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Hi, I need some info regarding if there are any limitations in using index organised tables compared to normal tables. Moreover, what is the deciding factor to be considered to give preference to an index organised table over a normal table. on oracle 8.1.7 rgds amar -- Please see the

Re: Oracle's Market share

2001-06-10 Thread Saurabh Sharma
just visit www.oracle.com the official web site of Oracle Corp. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 8:45 PM Where can one find some information about Oracle's market share in the various O/S markets. Like,

Re: help for rollback segments..

2001-06-10 Thread Saurabh Sharma
hi rachel, i recreated them in rbs tablespace, created all right. i created them as public segments. i tried to give them private. but create private rollback segment rbs1... failed. how i could create them private. after creating them as public, some are still shown as offline. when i tried to

Re: primary/ foreign key constraints for oltp, overhead?...soluti

2001-06-10 Thread Jared Still
On Sunday 10 June 2001 21:50, Amar Kumar Padhi wrote: - locks Oracle generates internal locks on dict tables to maintain the data integrity. e.g.: I deleted a record from detail table in one session. In another session I tried to delete a master record not related to the deleted detail

regarding isqlPlus

2001-06-10 Thread Saurabh Sharma
hi all, has anybody using iSqlPlus tool, provided by oracle. what i know is , it's the internat enabled extension of sql * plus, utilising the 3-tier architecture. they say oracle 8.1.7 is required for the implementation. any suggestions. saurabh