Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Hemant K Chitale
One of the teams here is planning to run anything from 8 to 16 database instances [no indication on sizing yet, but gut-feel SGAs are 200MB to 1GB and DB sizes 500MB to 40GB] on a large server, something like a Sun E6800 or an equivalent HP or Fujitsu server. 1. How many of you do run, and are

Oracle qry

2003-03-11 Thread manoj . gurnani
Hi All, I've the following qry : select distinct(decode(b.sys_id,'TRDENG',a.cust_bas_no,a.cosmos_base_no)) baseno ,a.br_cod,pty_nam,bank_name from piar_fr_psd a, psd b, bank_br c where a.psd_id=b.psd_id and a.psd_serial_num = b.psd_serial_no and b.bank_id = c.bank_id and (((sys_id =

Database vs File System

2003-03-11 Thread Rathi Dhanvir
We have got a requirement to keep all the documents on repository. We are looking on the possibility of keeping documents on Database or filesysytem. Could you please let me know your views which one I should go for. Regards, Dhanvir

RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Jack van Zanen
I have run/am running multiple oracle databases on a single server on AIX/Linux/W2K/NT although not with sga's in the GB area.Just make sure you get away with your I/O requirements We only had seperate homes for seperate oracle versions, so all 817 databases were in one home and 8.0.5 databases

Snapshots

2003-03-11 Thread Santosh Varma
Could anybody of the list give me the correct explanation of the below ?mechanism provided by ORACLE for table replication - Snapshots and SNAPSHOT LOGs Thanks and Regards, Santosh

RE: Oracle qry

2003-03-11 Thread Kamaljeet Singh
Select * from ( select distinct(decode(b.sys_id,'TRDENG',a.cust_bas_no,a.cosmos_base_no)) baseno ,a.br_cod,pty_nam,bank_name, rank() over (partition by baseno ,a.br_cod order by pty_nam) as rk from piar_fr_psd a, psd b, bank_br c where a.psd_id=b.psd_id and a.psd_serial_num = b.psd_serial_no and

RE: LMT monitoring

2003-03-11 Thread Toepke, Kevin M
Fresh tablespace Created specifically to create a testcase for an iTAR. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Was this a fresh tablespace or were there swiss cheese holes available to fill? Ron Thomas Hypercom, Inc [EMAIL

RE: LMT monitoring

2003-03-11 Thread Toepke, Kevin M
The version is 8.1.7.1.0 The report is via this query: SELECT partition_name, extent_id, bytes/1024, bytes/1024/1024 FROM dba_extents WHERE segment_name = 'FORMATTER_DATA_HISTORY' ANDowner = 'KEVIN' ORDER BY 1, 2 The file is not autoextent. The table is populated by

RE: Snapshots

2003-03-11 Thread Kamaljeet Singh
Read this, http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/A87860_01/doc/server.817/a76965/c31repli.htm#12888 Regards, Kamaljeet Singh (NCDB ASG) MBT, 52 BarrackSquare, Martlesham. IP5 3RF. Off. 01473 667170 Mob. 077 5368 5370 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-

Re: Oracle Development Suite for Linux?

2003-03-11 Thread Ray Stell
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:28:50PM -0800, Charles Hart wrote: I installed 9.2 on redhat 8.0 with great luck. I installed on a 700 PC with 756 megs of memory. I was using forms 6i running on NT client and could not tell when I was pointed at this instance verus one running on a HP machine.

RE: Oracle position on hints

2003-03-11 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: Oracle position on hints Hi, We recently upgraded from 7.3.4 to 8.7 (management plans on getting to that Y2K problem shortly ;-) We had an SQL statement that really needed a hint in 7.3.4. After upgrading to 8.7, I removed the hint and it runs much faster without it. I spend

RE: ``SQL*Net message to client`` Wait event with no SQL*Net

2003-03-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I think you're right Tim. It was kinda the point I so clumsily tried to make. There really is no such thing as a direct connection per se. Everything connects using SqlNet. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 6:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L But it still

Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread LeRoy Kemnitz
All - I am having a problem with the datafiles in a temporary tablespace. I need to move and rename three different datafiles in the tablespace. I am able to take them offline - no problem. I cna make the changes at the OS level. I am running on Unix. But I can't get the changes to show up

RE: Quick question on cursor resource use

2003-03-11 Thread Grant Allen
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 15:45 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Quick question on cursor resource use Fuzzy What is prompting you to increase OPEN_CURSORS?

RE: Oracle position on hints 9.2.0.X

2003-03-11 Thread James Howerton
After spending 2 ½ days trying hints, init parameters, re-writing the query, a completely useless TAR, etc. to get a query that runs in 1 second on 8.1.6.X to go faster than 1 minute on 9.2.0.2 I found a new to 9.2.0.X dynamic init parameter optimizer_dynamic_sampling, if I understand it

RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Stephane Paquette
Hi, On one of the 7 development box (aix 4.3.3) we have 27 instances Oracle 8172. All using the same oracle_home. I can't say it's the fastest response time ;-) As for the licensing we have a mix of CPU and user licences. Stephane Paquette Administrateur de bases de donnees Database

Re: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Thomas Day
I can't remember the last time that I saw a server (other than WinNT) running a single instance. My experience is that it's quite normal to run multiple instances on a single server. One Oracle home per version of Oracle. I'm not sure what the point of a separate Oracle home per instance would

RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server On our development RAC servers we have 24 instances ... on each side, performance is okay. Raj - Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot com Any views expressed here are strictly

Analyzing indexes

2003-03-11 Thread Chuck Hamilton
I need to determine whether or not a couple of indexes need to be rebuilt. The problem is the indexes are quite large and on a 24x7 high volume database. If I try to run an analyze validate structure to gather the data I need to make that decision, it sets a lock on the table for about an hour

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread gmei
Tom: You are absolutely right. What I do is to have a nightly script to check the available disk space (using df -k and awk) and total sum of dba_temp_files to make sure there always enough disk space for the LMT temp tablespace. Guang -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: LMT monitoring

2003-03-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: LMT monitoring Connor, What on earth you are doing on this list immediately after your Wedding? Which cruise liner has internet access?? I think Disney has ... ps: Thanks for the algorithm, let me implement and see how good my data dictionary holds up. Raj

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
LeRoy, I just struggled with this last week. You can't move Temporary Data files. You need to drop and recreate the TEMP tablespace - creating the data files in the correct directories. On a side note - here is an interesting feature. When Oracle creates files for the TEMP tablespace, it does

perl 5.8 access to oracle

2003-03-11 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom
Just installed Perl 5.8. Ran ppm3 to install the DBD package andPPM couldn'tfind it. I looked at activeperl site, it stated dbd for Oracle failed. I have now installed perl 5.6 and can find dbd/dbi files. With Perl 5.8, are you supposed to use something other than dbd/dbi to access an

RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
We are running 11 instances on WinNT with no problems! At one point, we had 26 instances. they are all development instances, so volumn and load are low. but they all share one Oracle Home. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003

Re: LMT monitoring

2003-03-11 Thread Connor McDonald
Not that this helps Raj much, but the algorithm does vary if the initial size of the segment is large, along the lines of: case when initial_extent 1m then case when extents 16 then next = 64k, when extents 80 then next = 1m, when extents 200 then next

RE: Database vs File System

2003-03-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Rathi Here are some considerations: 1. How many documents / how much storage? 2. Do you need to manipulate the documents while they are stored? 3. Consider Oracle ifs http://www.orafaq.org/faqifs.htm 4. What are your performance requirements? Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA

Re:RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread dgoulet
We also run several instances on just about every server we have. Most, but not all share the same Oracle_home. I only create new ones for newer versions of Oracle, but for each database I prefer to use seperate mount points such as: /test/system /test/rbs /test/temp /prod1/system /prod1/rbs

Row chaining

2003-03-11 Thread AK
Title: RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server I see some values 0 for chaint_cnt in dba_tables . How do I know if this is chained rows or migrated rows ? Any hits . Thanks, ak

Re[2]: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread dgoulet
Thomas, Now that's an interesting comment. I can't remember ever seeing more than one instance on an NT machine either except when we were playing around boy did that crash in a big hurry (NT 4.0 Oracle 8.0). On the other hand I've set up Linux with 4 instances (same piece of hardware) and

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread gmei
You can do 1. Create a new temporary tablespace (say temp1) 2. Assign all user's TEMPORARY_TABLESPACE to temp1 3. Drop the old temporary tablespace, remove it's OS files. 4. Re-create the temporary tablespace using new OS file names 5. Re-Assign all user's TEMPORARY_TABLESPACE to this new

Re: Database vs File System

2003-03-11 Thread Gene Sais
If you have millions of documents it may be better to have them stored in the db. If you have terabytes of documents that are pretty much static/read-only then you may want to have a separate db for the images and one for your data. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/03 04:58AM We have got a

RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Hemant What you are considering is certainly feasible. Consider how compatible these applications are, whether they have similar requirements in terms of uptime. Are their performance requirements compatible? One factor to consider is future upgrade paths of the applications. We seem to run

POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Chuck Hamilton
I'm trying to build a case for management that we need additional DBAs so I'd like to take a quick poll if I may. What is the ratio of Oracle databases to DBAs in your shop? This includes development and production databases. At our shop it's 33:1. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

RE: Hot backups

2003-03-11 Thread Schauss, Peter
I tried it both ways and got the same result. According to my notes from the Oracle Backup and Recovery course when you apply your redo logs, the control file gets rolled forward along with the data files. I believe that the only time you would get into trouble here is if you had made structural

RE: Analyzing indexes

2003-03-11 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: Analyzing indexes Chuck, Do you think these indexes are corrupt? Validate structure doesn't give you statistics like Compute Statistics or Estimate Statistics does. Jerry Whittle ASIFICS DBA NCI Information Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 618-622-4145 -Original

RE: RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Hemant Dick makes a good point about physical memory. The problem with a lot of instances is that they all have fixed amounts of memory (except in 9i, up to SGA_MAX_SIZE), and if one instance needs more memory you can't reallocate unless you bounce it to add memory and maybe bounce several

Re: Recovery problem using BMC Backtrack and tempfile

2003-03-11 Thread DEEDSD
We've run into this with Backtrack 3.3, which is also supposed to support 8.1.7.x. If I recall correctly, the temp tablespace is there, but offline. We usually have the create scripts for the database in question, so we just drop the tablespace and recreate it. We usually create it as locally

AFTER database logon trigger keeps sessions open

2003-03-11 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All, I have a after database logon trigger on server/instance 1. All it does is insert a record into instance on server2 via a database link. This creates a session on server2. So every user who logs on to server1 a session is created on server2. The session does not go away. Does anyone

Re: Re[2]: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael
At RMOUG last week, I heard that someone (Chip Briggs I think) had 5 (count 'em 5) isntances of Oracle running on his PC. I don't think it was Linux and it definitely wasn't production anything Rachel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas, Now that's an interesting comment. I can't

RE: Row chaining

2003-03-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
ak Smart-alek answer: Apply one of the methods to eliminate migrated rows, and if the problem doesn't go away, you know you have some chained rows ;-) Chained rows are a little difficult to diagnose. Look at the value for avg_row_len - is it near the db_block_size? I haven't tried this, but

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Ron Rogers
Chuck, At this location we have a total of 5 databases and 1 DBA. Time off without an electronic teather is a thing of the past. My last location was 4 production databases with 1 DBA and a backup DBA from the development arena of 2 development databases and 1 DBA. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Row chaining

2003-03-11 Thread chao_ping
AK, hi, row chaining is because the big row(row length is bigger than the block size), while row migration is because of small pctfree and updated rows. So, just look at the length of the rows. If chained rows, no way(unless you use larger block size and the row

RE: Database vs File System

2003-03-11 Thread Robson, Peter
Classic case of doing a proper requirements analysis. It will cover issues already raised, but will place those suggestions into the correct context of your business objectives. There is no cook-book answer - the answer will be unique to your installation and your environment. If it happens to be

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Craig Healey
3:1 Production, Development, my personal test DB : Me Craig Healey -Original Message- From: Chuck Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 March 2003 14:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: POLL: Database to DBA ratio I'm trying to build a case for

RE: LMT monitoring

2003-03-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: LMT monitoring Here is my interpretation of algorithm suggested by Conner, (I'll get to others too) /* CASE WHEN initial_extent 1m THEN CASE WHEN EXTENTS 16 THEN NEXT = 64k, WHEN EXTENTS 80 THEN NEXT = 1m, WHEN EXTENTS 200 THEN NEXT = 8m, ELSE NEXT = 64m WHEN

RE: AFTER database logon trigger keeps sessions open

2003-03-11 Thread Khedr, Waleed
You can use: execute immediate 'alter session close database link utilities_itport02_dblink'; After you're done with the insertion Regards, Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi All, I have a after database logon

RE: need help with dynamic sql

2003-03-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: need help with dynamic sql if you at-least know the source and destination tables will have same number of columns and data types ... you could just do something like insert into target.table select from source.table Raj

RE: need help with dynamic sql

2003-03-11 Thread Kamaljeet Singh
Not with execute immediate. Use dbms_sql I have done this. For example and help http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:104566430235951855::NO::F495 0_P8_DISPLAYID,F4950_P8_CRITERIA:584023239495, Regards,   Kamaljeet Singh (NCDB ASG) MBT, 52 Barrack Square, Martlesham. IP5 3RF. Off. 01473

Re: Re[2]: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Thomas Day
I do have multiple databases on a Win2K server. No problems except that MicroSoft just loves to write the SGA out to the swap file (about 630M of SGA, 1.3G of RAM and disk i/o out the wazzoo). I don't know if there was some specific reason that we never ran more than one instance on WinNT 4.0

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Pete Sharman
33 DBA's to one database? That's pretty danged good! :) Seriously, this is a question that comes up every so often within Oracle as well, as clients ask Oracle employees what should be expected. There's no simple answer to it. As you might expect, the answer is it depends. :) Depends on (a

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Thomas Day
We have 10 development databases that I support directly plus 5 implementation/testing databases that I support as second level and one production snapshot datamart. 16:1 However, there are also DBAs who support each project. That would make the ratio closer to 4:1 or 3:1.

Slow running jobs

2003-03-11 Thread Brooks, Russ
Hi, We're having slow response on some batch jobs in our production system. A straight SQL trace shows intermittant slow response times on selects against a variety of tables. What is odd is: the statistics are current for the tables, frequently the results of a compute. The same

Re: Quick question on cursor resource use

2003-03-11 Thread Bjørn Engsig
I wouldn't hesitate to set it to 500 or a even 1000 if your appliation really needs this many. But if you think about 10's of thousands, I would start really looking af the application to understand if it were written correctly. The major memory is not allocated by setting the parameter, but

RE: Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-11 Thread Kevin Lange
I will have to check your question on 'fewer sorts'. As far as changes to the SQL statements, there were 1 or 2 sql statements changed in the application because they no longer worked efficiently with the change to 8.1.7. But, on the whole (lets say 98%+ of the time) no changes were made.

Disable / enable constraints

2003-03-11 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I need to truncate and import data into several schemas. The tables have lots of constraints. I can produce a script to disable and enable the contriants but I would like to know more about the constraint_type field in dba_constraints and what are all the SYS_ contraints? Should I disable all

can't create database

2003-03-11 Thread Milen Pankov
Title: RE: LMT monitoring can't create a database with oracle 8.1.7.the installation went fine, but when i start dbassist on the 2% of thedatabase creation it tels me: "not connected to oracle". any ideas?

RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] server We run upto 22 instances on large SUN boxes... Each environment has their own oracle home, own file system, and in some cases-their own UNIX account for the environment.. One loses a little space for the multiple oracle homes, and it

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Gene Sais
27 databases to 1 dba, mixed dev, test, and prod. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/03 11:29AM 3:1 Production, Development, my personal test DB : MeCraig Healey -Original Message- href="">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 March 2003 14:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L build a case

RE: AFTER database logon trigger keeps sessions open

2003-03-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: AFTER database logon trigger keeps sessions open Try putting a dbms_session.close_database_link('utilities_itport02_dblink'); after the insert. also aren't we missing a commit?? I'd also make this a autonomous transaction ... Raj

RE: Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-11 Thread Kevin Lange
Dan; Everything remained the same on the DB except the version. No changes made. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kevin, The ORA-01555 errors are almost certainly symptoms, not the actual problem. It has been a few

NTFS on red hat

2003-03-11 Thread Milen Pankov
i have precompiled the cernel with ntfs write support. now how can i mount my ntfs partitions to try it?

Re: Oracle Development Suite for Linux?

2003-03-11 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
RS On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:28:50PM -0800, Charles Hart wrote: I installed 9.2 on redhat 8.0 with great luck. I installed on a 700 PC with 756 megs of memory. I was using forms 6i running on NT client and could not tell when I was pointed at this instance verus one running on a HP

RE: Hot backups

2003-03-11 Thread Dong, Ping - Raleigh, NC
How about trying these: SVRMGR set autorecovery on Autorecovery ON SVRMGR recover database using backup controlfile; Ping Northrop Grumman IT -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I tried it both ways and got the same

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Chuck I think this is a slippery argument. It may appeal to managers but can lead to bad decisions long-term. Does anyone remember years ago when managers would measure COBOL programmers LOC (lines of code)? Just measure how many lines of code each programmer writes each day and vola! you know

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Grant Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/03 09:59AM I'm trying to build a case for management that we need additional DBAs so I'd like to take a quick poll if I may. What is the ratio of Oracle databases to DBAs in your shop? This includes development and production databases. At our shop it's 33:1. It

Re: Oracle position on hints

2003-03-11 Thread Bjørn Engsig
Seems like we are starting Yet Another Bind Discussion! Anyway, the peeking into bind variables is basically done when a hard parse is done. Hence, if multiple sessions execute the same shared SQL statement, only the first one will actually do the peek and hence, the optimization for all

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Dong, Ping - Raleigh, NC
6:2 six DBAs to one development + one testing VLDB. Good luck. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 3:1 Production, Development, my personal test DB : Me Craig Healey -Original Message- From: Chuck Hamilton

Re: Row chaining

2003-03-11 Thread Darrell Landrum
Tom Kyte has an excellent method of finding which are chained and which are migrated published in a recent issue of Oracle magazine. I don't know which one, possibly the latest, but will check when I get back in the office. In the meantime, the information may be on his web site. A good

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael
volume of database structural changes (new tables, changes to existing ones) is another to add to that list --- Pete Sharman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 33 DBA's to one database? That's pretty danged good! :) Seriously, this is a question that comes up every so often within Oracle as well,

RE: can't create database

2003-03-11 Thread Hamid Alavi
Title: RE: LMT monitoring I had the same problem,You have to generate the script with dbassist then run the script. -Original Message-From: Milen Pankov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:00 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: can't

RE: can't create database

2003-03-11 Thread Stahlke, Mark
Title: RE: LMT monitoring Is this on Linux? If yes, then it sounds like you need to install the glibc stubs patch. If no, then I don't know what the problem might be. -Original Message-From: Milen Pankov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:00 AMTo:

Can't run full exports due to SMON wait

2003-03-11 Thread Thomas Jeff
Title: Can't run full exports due to SMON wait Running 8.1.7.4 on RS6000/AiX 4.3.3. We noticed this weekend that all our full exports performed via sqlbacktrack for a given database were hanging. Killing the exports and restarting does not work. Checking waits, it looks as though the full

RE: Disable / enable constraints

2003-03-11 Thread gmei
SYS_ contraints are the ones that when you created them you did not give a name. Oracle will automatically assign a name like 'SYS_1234567'. You can drop tables in the schema before import. Import will automatically create tables if it does not exist. HTH. Guang -Original Message-

Re:POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread dgoulet
Chuck, We've got near as many instances as you (40 at last count) but in three different locations(2 in Mass although there 10 miles apart and one in CA). Consequently there are three DBA's. You also might want to take a head count of what I refer to as screaming mimesis (end users who

RE: Oracle Developer Kit 9iV2 on Solaris - Refined

2003-03-11 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Oracle Developer Kit 9iV2 on Solaris - Refined Actually what are best practices for where you put this stuff - apparently some of it can be either on 9ias or on the RDBMS. If you have an application that will be using both - which is best practice? Are there issues related to

RE: Oracle position on hints

2003-03-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I doubt there are "some incorrectly applications", I think that is a rule rather than an exception. Raj - Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot com Any views expressed here are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts,

RE: Oracle Developer Kit 9iV2 on Solaris

2003-03-11 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Oracle Developer Kit 9iV2 on Solaris As a standard we install web servers separate from RDBMS servers (i.e. on separate hosts). 9iV2 comes with Development Kit. Is any of that needed on the RDBMS server? Would I want any of that installed on the web server host on Solaris if my

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Robin Ilardi
I currently have 5 development databases and 1 beta production database that I administer, so that's 6:1, but I'm also the Sys Admin for these servers as well. These are also very small databases. robin -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients

RE: Disable / enable constraints

2003-03-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Ron, SYS_ constraints are NOT NULL constraints. They are also those constraints placed on tables by you that you have not named. This is why we should always name our constraints! The Constraint_Type field is decoded as follows: C = Check Constraint P = Primary Key R = Relational (Foreign Key)

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Todd Carlson
28 Oracle (dev, test, qa prod) 3 SQL Server (arent I lucky? gag) 31:1 Todd Carlson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gene Sais Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:00 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE:

Re: can't create database

2003-03-11 Thread Ray Stell
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:00:09AM -0800, Milen Pankov wrote: RE: LMT monitoringcan't create a database with oracle 8.1.7. the installation went fine, but when i start dbassist on the 2% of the database creation it tels me: not connected to oracle. any ideas? -- look in the alert log

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Spears, Brian
Last place I was at was 35:1 but we had top notch guys and and organized environment..The kinds of databases you have.. what kinds of work being done on them etc. the high availability and service level agreement and change control requirments. Now we have mega-sensitive instances.. needing Now

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread James Damiano
On the Oracle side there's 2 of us (myself and one other) supporting 20 databases, so that makes us 10:1. However, in addition to this there is also the IBM mainframe/Software AG Adabas side where it is my privilege to support the 5 legacy database environments by myself. Jim Damiano -- Please

Oracle Database audit...

2003-03-11 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: Oracle Database audit... This may or may not be of value... Under the Security: Possibly users with the oracle account password on the machine? This would obviously allow people to conn / as sysdba. Maybe? :) Have a good one!

Re: Analyzing indexes

2003-03-11 Thread Chuck Hamilton
RE: Analyzing indexesNo but validate structure populates the index_stats view which is the only way I know of to get the index height, leaf rows, deleted leaf rows, and pct. of used space which is what I normally use in determining if an index needs to be rebuilt or not. Is there another way?

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
We currently have twenty-one databases, thirteen production and eight which are either test or development. Of the thirteen production databases five need to be up on a 24 X 7 basis; physics experiments and or accelerator monitoring depend on them. Nine of the production databases are

Re: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Chuck Hamilton
Do all share the same address space or does each instance get it's own copy of Oracle.exe and it's own 2g address space? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:04 AM We are running 11 instances on WinNT with no

Re: RE: need help with dynamic sql

2003-03-11 Thread rgaffuri
thats the problem, I do not know for sure that the tables are identical in each schema. Sorry, I left that out. I have to check for that before I even get to that point. If there are 'NOT NULL' columns in the destination table, then I throw insert to an error table, if not then I build the

RE: Oracle Database audit...

2003-03-11 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: Oracle Database audit... Oops. This wasn't meant to go to the list. sorry -Original Message- From: Chris Stephens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle Database audit... This

Re: Running multiple instances on a [large] server

2003-03-11 Thread Chuck Hamilton
RE: Running multiple instances on a [large] serverBy environment do you mean instance? If so, couldn't you accomplish the same thing with one oracle home on each server for each version installed? That's what we do in our clustered environments. Each node has an oracle home for each version of

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread DEEDSD
Consider yourself lucky. We've got a 71:1 ratio here. Chuck Hamilton

Re: can't create database

2003-03-11 Thread Alan Davey
I had the same error message on NT with Oracle 9.2 recently. The first problem was that the init_sid.ora file was created a directory different from where the db create scripts were looking for it. The second problem was that one of the init parameters was for Enterprise Edition and I was

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Ji
A simple num of databases to DBA ratio is quite meaningless. You need to take into consideration of at least the following: o Size of the database, transaction volume. What kind of up time your database needs to provide. o Complexity of the database and application which run on top of it.

Re: Row chaining

2003-03-11 Thread Anjo Kolk
I have written two programs to deal with this: 1) a plsql procedure that shows all the LIO for a chained row system wide. This works like sar: ser serveroutput on execute oraperf.analyze_lio(10, 1); 2) an object row chainer analyzer, this will find which SQL statements and

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread david davis
Chuck, I support 17 development, 2 production oracle databases, 3 DB2/MVS databases and 1 SQL Server. A coworker supports only 1 application and that is in UAT/Dev environment but it is a highly active application in the multi-Terabyte range (UDB). We have external prod. support for some of

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Scott . Shafer
139 remote production servers/instances (30 are large to VLDB, the rest small), 5 development instances, 1 9iAS test instance, 3 dba's. Mostly reporting with batch ETL jobs run nightly. Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210.581.6217 -Original Message- From: Robin Ilardi [SMTP:[EMAIL

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread James Howerton
31:1 will be 40:1 by the end of the year. I have a second guy in training as the second DBA. 3:1 oracle app servers 23 24X7 medical databases of one type or annother 8 Dev/Test databases 1 production app server 2 dev/test app servers ...JIM... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/11/03 8:59:20 AM I'm

Re: perl 5.8 access to oracle

2003-03-11 Thread Jared . Still
Get DBI and DBD::Oracle from www.xmlproj.com/PPM, courtesy of Ilya Sterin. Jared Jeffrey Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/2003 06:34 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Jared . Still
Chuck, That's not really a good measure. It really depends on a number of things. * number of users * number of apps * size of db's * quality of apps ( some require more work than others ) * amount of new development * lots more I can't think of at the moment... Best thing to do is document

Re: Analyzing indexes

2003-03-11 Thread Jared . Still
Chuck, I've been convinced that rebuilding indexes is a waste of time. In fact, it can cost you time, as rebuilding indexes can kill your peformance while the indexes again seek their 'level'. Check into at asktom.oracle.com. There's some good examples. jared Chuck Hamilton [EMAIL

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