RE: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread Goulet, Dick
Have you tried SQL*Plus's COPY command?? Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message-From: Gunnar Berglund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:39 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Data Transfer between two

Re: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread Mladen Gogala
Iz SAP DB Oracle?? On 2003.10.20 07:34, Goulet, Dick wrote: Have you tried SQL*Plus's COPY command?? Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, we have an application

Re: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread kminerva
yep Iz SAP DB Oracle?? On 2003.10.20 07:34, Goulet, Dick wrote: Have you tried SQL*Plus's COPY command?? Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all,

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-20 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
If this is true, then what is the difference between RAC (formerly Oracle Parallel Server) and Grid computing? Is this just another fine example of Oracle taking an existing product and renaming it yet again? they *like* doing this. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original

RE: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread Goulet, Dick
SAP runs on Oracle. Unless you use that cheap thing that MYSql currently offers, in which case use heterogeneous services, if you can find the odbc driver. Then a DB Link or the COPY command will work. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent:

Re: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread Tim Gorman
Gunnar, Please do not discard dblinks so readily. As in many situations, I suspect that they are blamed for ³slowness² when it is really the application code that is at fault. All too often, people will write PL/SQL code that hasn¹t a hope in hell of performing well, then put a database link

using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-20 Thread rgaffuri
This is for non-transactional data load instances. The guys here sware that by using smaller temporary tables(not global temp tables) they can increase the speed of the data loads. Not worried about latch contention because its just for bulk loads. I know this bad in transactional instances.

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-20 Thread Tim Gorman
All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example. However, the guys here covered their bases by specifying smaller temporary tables, as if they could prevent them from becoming large. I suppose they might feel that they indemnify themselves if the tables should ever

RE: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread Stephane Paquette
Db link slow ? Are you sure ? What was the bottleneck when you test ? Using insert /*+ appent */ on non-indexed tables with nologgingis usually fast enough in most cases. I know that we can playwith the SDU-TDU parameters on sql*net but I do not know what kind of performance improvement

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Tom I would suspect that you are correct. I suppose we won't know until the 10g manuals are released. I do understand that parallel server was pretty much rewritten to create RAC. However, I would argue that what you see as an irritation is part of Oracle's marketing success. By changing the

Re: Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-20 Thread rgaffuri
we drop and recreate the temp tables every night. We also use PCTFREE PCTUSED at 99 and 1 to pack in the blocks and we use very small extent sizes. then we analyze with an estimate size of 20 percent which is quite fast. All of them are used for full table scans and do not have indexes. Ive

db_block_lru_latches and servers with multiple instances

2003-10-20 Thread rgaffuri
We have some servers with 6-8 instances. These are typically staging instances and maybe 1 low transaction production instance. We keep multiple instances on one server strictly for cost. Licensing additional servers would be prohibitively expensive so we bought higher end servers and stacked

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-20 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Dennis, I guess this is the crux of my question. My impression was that it was *not* just another implementation/release of OPS/RAC, that it was indeed something brand new. I guess I need to wait and see what it actually does. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original

RE: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread Goulet, Dick
Stephane, After much experimentation it is my considered opinion that SQL*Net is NOT the most efficient way to move data from point a to b, especially when using DB_LINKS. SDU-TDU do help, but only marginally. What you really need to do is use a bulk collect method that most application

Re: RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-20 Thread rgaffuri
the big question is how useful will it be in 10g. Will anyone want to use it? I think I saw a post somewhere that says wait until oracle version 12 before anyone uses it. From: Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/20 Mon AM 10:44:25 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread Mladen Gogala
I believe that transferring large quantities of data between point A and point B at discrete intervals is not an optimal operation in itself. I could argue a point that if application needs to do so, the application needs to be re-designed, possibly by using data guard or similar tools which

job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread system manager
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RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-20 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I have the impression that Oracle has a grid running from Texas somewhere, that they used it to test 10g, and that they also are using w.r.t the Collaboration Suite. In their case, if they can allocate resources like people used to be able to allocate disk from an NAS to servers that require it,

RE: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Goulet, Dick
Now that's a piece of recruiter mail that I can really appreciate. Short to the point. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Please send me an email, if you are

LOG MINER utiliry

2003-10-20 Thread Rakesh Gupta
We are trying to analyze 200G of redologs (archive logs) from past 1 year. The database is on windows and the log miner is taking about 4 hours to analyze 2G log files. Is it possible to move the log files to sun SPARC Solaris and analyze ? I would think the log files between NT and Unix won't

Re: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Quamrul Polash
Please send me some more information. Thanks, Quamrul From: "system manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: job opportunity in Dallas Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:09:32 -0800 Please send me an email, if you

RE: LOG MINER utiliry

2003-10-20 Thread Goulet, Dick
Rakesh, According to a session I attended at this years OraTechs conference, yes you can. Now I haven't experimented with that so throw a shovel full of salt into the mix. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003

RE: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD
Title: RE: job opportunity in Dallas What kind of job? Mail Carrier, garbage collector, retail clerk Details. -Original Message- From: system manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 10:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: job

RE: LOG MINER utiliry

2003-10-20 Thread Mark Leith
You need the power of the Grid! ;) Sorry, can't help from my side - just couldn't resist! -Original Message- Rakesh Gupta Sent: 20 October 2003 17:00 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We are trying to analyze 200G of redologs (archive logs) from past 1 year. The database is on

Re: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Mladen Gogala
Executioner. On 10/20/2003 12:14:35 PM, Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD wrote: What kind of job? Mail Carrier, garbage collector, retail clerk Details. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally

RE: re Rebuilding Indexes in Oracle Apps -- was RE: RE: Separate

2003-10-20 Thread Cary Millsap
Fyi, Oracle updated note 182699.1 last Friday. The inaccurate statements about index fragmentation have been removed. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 10/28 Phoenix, 11/19 Sydney - SQL Optimization 101: 12/8-12 Dallas -

max open cursors exceeded

2003-10-20 Thread elain he
Hi, I'm trying to troubleshoot ora-1000 (max cursors exceeded) for an application. When I ran the following query on the SID(192), select hash_value ,count(*) from v$open_cursor where sid=192 group by hash_Value having count(*) 1; HASH_VALUE COUNT(*) -- -- 670480087 5

Re: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread LeRoy Kemnitz
Yes, what kind of job is it? Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD wrote: RE: job opportunity in Dallas What kind of job? Mail Carrier, garbage collector, retail clerk Details. -Original Message- From: system manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday,

RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away?

2003-10-20 Thread Stephane Paquette
Is 38 that old ??? Stephane -Original Message- Mladen Gogala Sent: 17 octobre, 2003 18:00 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ah, another one who can claim experience. According to one of the previous post it's a genuine gold mine these days. Being born in the Jurassic (1961) has

RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away?

2003-10-20 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Let's do the time warp again! 2003-1961=42... But, I liked 1999 better... just a jump to the left... One thing about living in the past... The rent sure is cheaper. Bambi (feeling that 38 is a spry young thang) -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:44 AM To: Multiple

RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away?

2003-10-20 Thread Stephane Paquette
38 is my age, Mladen is 42 Stephane -Original Message- Bellow, Bambi Sent: 20 octobre, 2003 13:04 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Let's do the time warp again! 2003-1961=42... But, I liked 1999 better... just a jump to the left... One thing about living in the past... The

Re: max open cursors exceeded

2003-10-20 Thread Mladen Gogala
Do you have CURSOR_SPACE_FOR_TIME set to true? On 10/20/2003 12:39:25 PM, elain he wrote: Hi, I'm trying to troubleshoot ora-1000 (max cursors exceeded) for an application. When I ran the following query on the SID(192), select hash_value ,count(*) from v$open_cursor where sid=192 group by

RE: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Goulet, Dick
Hummm, sounds interesting. Been doing that on Duhvelopers for the last 10 years! *-) Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Executioner. On 10/20/2003 12:14:35 PM,

Re: RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away?

2003-10-20 Thread rgaffuri
generally speaking there are two groups of people using the RBO. 1. The DBAs who have been around for 15 years and doesnt read release notes and doesnt feel the need to read release notes or documentation because he knows everything. He may have tried the CBO in 1995 and had 1-2 bad

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-20 Thread Pete Sharman
Tom Your perception is correct. Think about grid in very simple terms as a collection of database servers (clearly there's more to it than that, but for the point I'm trying to make this makes it easier to understand), and you'll quickly see that a RAC database can be part of that BUT so can

RE: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Bellow, Bambi
I wonder... in the VMS world, they were executables, so is this a VMS job? Would it be '.o'ers in Unix? Or batchers in DOS? Bambi. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hummm, sounds interesting. Been doing that on

RE: RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away?

2003-10-20 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Unfortunately, our applications fall into the second category. And due to the complexity of the queries being run, attempting to turn on CBO also activates a bug for which Oracle has a fix in v10.1 but will not do a backport, and so, until we are ready to go to 10.1, we are stuck with RBO, and

RE: RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away?

2003-10-20 Thread rgaffuri
what is the bug? From: Bellow, Bambi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/20 Mon PM 02:04:26 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away? Unfortunately, our applications fall into the second category. And due to

RE: LOG MINER utiliry

2003-10-20 Thread Rakesh Gupta
FYI, I tried the logminer utility ver 8.1.7.2 on solaris to analyze windows os based log files, it didn't work. Apparently, it could not read the file header information. Errors: ORA-01284: file /export/home/oracle/utldir/ORCLT001S03748.ARC cannot be opened ORA-00308: cannot open archived log

RE: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
Title: Message On the application which needs the data,can you use CTAS with nologging? This is a pretty fast way of transfering data. Have you investigated transportable tablespaces. How current does the data have to be? Ian MacGregor Stanford Linear Accelerator Center [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away?

2003-10-20 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Didn't I mention that? Bug 2954921... simple query blows away one of their internal views. Here's a snippet of the text from the TAR. select a.* from nt_admin_place a, nt_country c where c.country_id in (select id from TEMP_ADMINPLACE union select id from TEMP_ADMINBORDER ) and a.admin_level

RE: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Paula_Stankus
Hey guys - this is funny. Don't respondit is actually a trick...various employers are using this service to determine how loyal their current DBA's are while the market is tight Just kidding -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:54 PM To: Multiple recipients

RE: RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away?

2003-10-20 Thread rgaffuri
is that the correct number? its not on metalink. From: Bellow, Bambi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/20 Mon PM 02:54:25 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away? Didn't I mention that? Bug 2954921... simple

RE: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Stephane Paquette
And you think I used my real name ! Clark Kent -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 octobre, 2003 14:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hey guys - this is funny. Don't respondit is actually a trick...various employers are using this service to determine how loyal

Re: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Mladen Gogala
Speaking of a tight market http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/hcut0BdZe50V20CBbm0Aj On 10/20/2003 02:59:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys - this is funny. Don't respondit is actually a trick...various employers are using this service to determine how loyal their

RE: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Igor Neyman
2% - that's all we get? -:) Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Mladen Gogala Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Speaking of a tight market http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/hcut0BdZe50V20CBbm0Aj

How do I match something like %abc

2003-10-20 Thread Roger Xu
How come the following does not work select * from mytable where mycol like '\%%' Roger Xu Database Administrator Dr Pepper Bottling Company of Texas (972)721-8337 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Roger Xu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network

Re[2]: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Monday, October 20, 2003, 4:54:26 PM, you wrote: IN 2% - that's all we get? -:) Didn't someone write a book once called The 2% Solution? That's what we are: the solution! Best regards, Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:[EMAIL

Re: job opportunity in Dallas

2003-10-20 Thread Kevin Tsay
According to this census, the database administrators are the 2nd highest jobless rate among the general IT workforce. --Kevin - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:59 PM Speaking of a tight market

RE: How do I match something like %abc

2003-10-20 Thread Norris, Gregory T [ITS]
select * from mytable where mycol like '\%%' escape '\' -Original Message- Roger Xu Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L How come the following does not work select * from mytable where mycol like '\%%' Roger Xu Database Administrator Dr

RE: How do I match something like %abc

2003-10-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
select * from mytable where mycol like '\%%' escape '\' Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an

Re: How do I match something like %abc

2003-10-20 Thread Stephane Faroult
Roger Xu wrote: How come the following does not work select * from mytable where mycol like '\%%' Roger Xu Database Administrator Dr Pepper Bottling Company of Texas (972)721-8337 Because '\' is an escape character only when explicitly declared as such .. where mycol like

RE: How do I match something like %abc

2003-10-20 Thread Cary Millsap
I think you need this instead: select * from mytable where mycol like '\%%' escape '\' Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 10/28 Phoenix, 11/19 Sydney - SQL Optimization 101: 12/8-12 Dallas - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March

Re: passwords case sensitive

2003-10-20 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Jared, I agree it would be nice! In fact I am writing a paper for security focus at present about password features and profiles and the password function and what can be done with it. The paper includes a script that writes a password function and profile based on answers to given by the

Re: how to find the installed version of oracle??

2003-10-20 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Try looking in the $ORACLE_BASE/oraInstaller/installerActions.log (the file name is from memory, i am sure you will find it). Parse the file and all of the installed versions are listed towards the end. Also you can search the oraInventory directory, there is a sub-directory for each component

RE: How do I match something like %abc

2003-10-20 Thread Roger Xu
thank a million to everyone replied this. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L select * from mytable where mycol like '\%%' escape '\' -Original Message- Roger Xu Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:29 PM To: Multiple

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-20 Thread Jared . Still
From what little I know about it, I would say that RAC is simply a piece of the Grid enabling infrastructure. Grid computing is much larger than just Oracle. There is no dearth of grid computing literature available on the www. Simply google for it and you will be inundated. Jared

Can I concatenate several rows without a procedure?

2003-10-20 Thread Jake Johnson
Hello, I am trying to concatenate several records with simple sql. Is this possible? -- Thanks, Jake Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Plutoid - http://www.plutoid.com - Shop Plutoid for the best prices on Rims, Tires, and Wheel

RE: Can I concatenate several rows without a procedure?

2003-10-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jake Can you provide a simple example of what you have in mind? Several possibilities occur to me, but I'm not sure which will suit your need. Concatenating the columns of a row, the same column from several rows, all columns of several rows? Also, when you say several, how many specifically do

Re: db_block_lru_latches and servers with multiple instances

2003-10-20 Thread Jared . Still
Interesting question. Some initial thoughts on that are that latches don't actually consume much CPU. In a poorly written app (or in the extremely rare event of a database bug, but probability of that is so low as to not be worth discussing) you may encounter latch contention that will cause

RE: Can I concatenate several rows without a procedure?

2003-10-20 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Yes. -Original Message- Jake Johnson I am trying to concatenate several records with simple sql. Is this possible? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jacques Kilchoer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051

Re: Not able to add DB which is ruuning on the local node

2003-10-20 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Is this database on the same O_H as OEM or a different one ? Also you may want to review MEtalink articles on How OEM discovers a node on Metalink... Babu - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 10:44 AM Hi List:

RE: re Rebuilding Indexes in Oracle Apps -- was RE: RE: Separate

2003-10-20 Thread Jared Still
Thanks for the info Cary. Jared On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:29, Cary Millsap wrote: Fyi, Oracle updated note 182699.1 last Friday. The inaccurate statements about index fragmentation have been removed. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: -

RE: Data Transfer between two instances

2003-10-20 Thread Jared Still
Actually, that 'cheap thing' is SAP DB, which is a simply what SAP renamed Adabas when they purchased it. Apparently it is quite a capable databas. On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 05:59, Goulet, Dick wrote: SAP runs on Oracle. Unless you use that cheap thing that MYSql currently offers, in which

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-20 Thread Tim Gorman
Unless you typo'd, there are some serious problems here... Setting PCTFREE to 99 is not likely to pack in the blocks. Rather the opposite; you are instead leaving blocks 99% empty. Quite a bit of wasted I/O in performing a FULL table scan here... :-) Anyway, it is not a good idea to have