RE: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-19 Thread Mark Leith
trying to push a 5 disk raid array and one hot spare at us, because my IT director was really trying to squeeze them on the price of my 10 18GB disk configuration. After the sales guy and engineer went on about how their 4 separate IO paths would make our raid 5 perform as well as any mirrored pair, I

RE: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-19 Thread Holman, Rodney
Sorry WRT = With respect to -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L First what use are the two internal drives that aren't in the disk array? Someone suggested to WRT them, and I am not familiar with that term. Again I am

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2001-12-19 Thread tday6
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RE: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-19 Thread Johnston, Tim
of my 10 18GB disk configuration. After the sales guy and engineer went on about how their 4 separate IO paths would make our raid 5 perform as well as any mirrored pair, I got to ask a few questions. Well it turns out that their RAID performs that well with extra large database block sizes. When I

hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread Steve McClure
We are in the process of buying new hardware, and our original configuration called for 10 18 GB drives in a Hitachi disk array cabinet. We are getting some sales pressure to change this to 5 36 GB disks. Now I was planning to spread our DB out over as many mirrored pairs as possible, or maybe

RE: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread Ken Janusz
Database Conversion Lead Sufficient System, Inc. Minneapolis, MN -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:hard disk configuration question We are in the process of buying new hardware, and our original

RE: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread Post, Ethan
Hold on a minute. I run Oracle on my laptop just fine with a single drive. It would also scream with an EMC disk array attached to it. It really depends on the application(s)/user(s) you are supporting. If they can save a bunch of money and the performance impact is minimal there is no trouble

Re: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread lembark
-- Steve McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/01 11:00:22 -0800 We are in the process of buying new hardware, and our original configuration called for 10 18 GB drives in a Hitachi disk array cabinet. We are getting some sales pressure to change this to 5 36 GB disks. Now I was planning to

RE: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread Jared . Still
Steve, You'll have to do the math, and that's still not a complete answer. By 'math' I mean figure out the maximum throughput of their configuration version the one you really want. Also keep in mind that 5 36 gig disks means RAID 5. Being somewhat familiar with that app, I feel fairly

Re: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread Ray Stell
. Minneapolis, MN -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: hard disk configuration question We are in the process of buying new hardware, and our original configuration called for 10 18 GB drives in a Hitachi

Re: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread Rodd Holman
Database Conversion Lead Sufficient System, Inc. Minneapolis, MN -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: hard disk configuration question We

Re: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Although I agree with these recommendations, I don't agree that Oracle is such an I/O hog. Oracle was designed to perform I/O efficiently and generally does so. Poorly-written SQL can create an I/O bottleneck, but it's not the fault of the RDBMS. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are almost

Re: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread Jared Still
I was the DBA for 3 years for the app Steve is working on. It won't be happy on one RAID4 volume with 5 disks. Jared On Tuesday 18 December 2001 12:40, Post, Ethan wrote: Hold on a minute. I run Oracle on my laptop just fine with a single drive. It would also scream with an EMC disk array

RE: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread Steve McClure
Well we had our meeting with the Hitachi Sales critter, and engineer. I discovered that they were trying to push a 5 disk raid array and one hot spare at us, because my IT director was really trying to squeeze them on the price of my 10 18GB disk configuration. After the sales guy and engineer

RE: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread hemantchitale
Sales critter, and engineer. I discovered that they were trying to push a 5 disk raid array and one hot spare at us, because my IT director was really trying to squeeze them on the price of my 10 18GB disk configuration. After the sales guy and engineer went on about how their 4 separate IO paths

Re: Disk configuration

2001-06-20 Thread Connor McDonald
ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:22 AM Subject: RE: Disk configuration It all depends on what kind of os/filesystem/and disks you have. I know that under AIX, using SSA drives we could actually tell where on the disk we wanted the filesystem

Re: Disk configuration

2001-06-20 Thread KC
your flle is broken into multiple pieces, can that happen?? KC -Original Message- From: Kevin Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:22 AM Subject: RE: Disk configuration It all

Re: Disk configuration

2001-06-20 Thread Connor McDonald
] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:22 AM Subject: RE: Disk configuration It all depends on what kind of os/filesystem/and disks you have. I know that under AIX, using SSA drives we could actually tell where

RE: Disk configuration

2001-06-20 Thread Kevin Lange
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Disk configuration Kevin, Thanks for your input. I was trying to put certain datafiles on contiguous disk space, tell me if I am wrong, I try to avoid the situation where you want to create a 2G file, but the file system don't

Disk configuration

2001-06-19 Thread KC
Dear List, Someone told me when a disk receive a write request, it write to the nearest free space on disk where the disk read/write head is currently positioning, is this information correct?? If this is true, is this a bad thing for database application?? That mean we can't really

RE: Disk configuration

2001-06-19 Thread Christopher Spence
A Fuelspot -Original Message-From: KC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:36 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Disk configuration Dear List, Someone told me when a disk receive a write request, it write to the nearest free space on disk wher

RE: Disk configuration

2001-06-19 Thread Kevin Lange
conflicts. -Original Message-From: KC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:36 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Disk configuration Dear List, Someone told me when a disk receive a write request, it write to the nearest free space

Re: Disk configuration

2001-06-19 Thread KC
]Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:15 AMSubject: RE: Disk configuration As that person if Santa exists. The datafiles allocate their extents upon their creation, so a new insert will write within that space, Walking on water and developing software from

Re: Disk configuration

2001-06-19 Thread KC
that happen?? KC -Original Message-From: Kevin Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:22 AMSubject: RE: Disk configuration It all depends on what kind of os/filesystem/and disks you have