RE: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-29 Thread JayMiller
This database is required to be 7x24 so we have to run in archivelog mode (no cold backups). My concern with SAME is that we may very well end up with a lot of io contention when we're having large data loads and large sorts happening at the same time. And would you really put data files on

Re: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-28 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi April, A few years ago in London for a large finance group a colleague and I did a similar job where we used veritas on sun 4500 and 5200 storedge arrays to specify which parts of the physical discs were used so we could control physical locations. We had similar constraints, huge amounts of

Re: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-27 Thread zhu chao
have the luxury of moving a 300G database to a new box that's being built and choosing the specifications, disk layout, striping, etc. After spending the morning poring over Cary Millsap's wonderful VLDB paper this is what we're thinking of but I'd appreciate any comments. One

Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-26 Thread JayMiller
Title: Message We have the luxury of moving a 300G database to a new box that's being built and choosing the specifications, disk layout, striping, etc. After spendingthe morning poring over Cary Millsap's wonderful VLDB paper this is what we're thinking of but I'd appreciate any comments

RE: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-26 Thread Matthew Zito
for filesystem/disk layout We have the luxury of moving a 300G database to a new box that's being built and choosing the specifications, disk layout, striping, etc. After spendingthe morning poring over Cary Millsap's wonderful VLDB paper this is what we're thinking of but I'd appreciate

RE: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
of moving a 300G database to a new box that's being built and choosing the specifications, disk layout, striping, etc. After spending the morning poring over Cary Millsap's wonderful VLDB paper this is what we're thinking of but I'd appreciate any comments. One of my main goals going

RE: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-26 Thread Matthew Zito
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mladen Gogala Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout Can you remind me, what is readahead good for on redo files? I believe

Re: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-26 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Jay, I'd like to see (for my enlightenment) a brief rationale for your decisions, if you have time. Thanks! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have the luxury of moving a 300G database to a new box that's being built and choosing the specifications, disk layout, striping, etc. After spending

RE: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-26 Thread Matthew Zito
- From: Paul Baumgartel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout Jay, I'd like to see (for my enlightenment) a brief rationale for your decisions, if you have

RE: Reality check for filesystem/disk layout

2003-09-26 Thread JayMiller
recipients of list ORACLE-L Jay, I'd like to see (for my enlightenment) a brief rationale for your decisions, if you have time. Thanks! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have the luxury of moving a 300G database to a new box that's being built and choosing the specifications, disk layout

DISK LAYOUT

2001-12-03 Thread Harvinder Singh
Title: RE: Deleting files on w2k Hi, We have to performance benchmark test for our application . We have to check only scalibiliy and performance and not much concern for reliablity. We have 10 36G hard disks(Fiber Channel array) and 2 18G(Internal boot disks).4 400MHZ cpu's Expected

RE: DISK LAYOUT

2001-12-03 Thread Mark Leith
Well I think it's time for you to start reading papers discussing OFA (Optimal Flexible Architecture). http://technet.oracle.com/doc/oracle8i_816/linux_816/unixdoc/a82848/a82846/a ppa_ofa.htm The above link is for the LINUX OFA document, but the concepts are the same, and you will probably find

DISK LAYOUT RAID LEVEL

2001-11-30 Thread Harvinder Singh
Hi, We have to do benchmarks tests(scalability,performance) for our product and have machine with following configuration..We dont have experience for large size databases layout. It will be greatly appreciated if someone points out from his experience: 1) Which raid level to use for which

Re: DISK LAYOUT RAID LEVEL

2001-11-30 Thread tday6
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Re: DISK LAYOUT RAID LEVEL

2001-11-30 Thread Edward Shevtsov
Hi Harvinder, If I were you I would - put OS and Oracle executables on a RAID1 volume with minimal raid block size - put redo log files in chess order on two dedicated RAID1 volumes (the odd redo groups locate on the first volume and the even redo groups locate on the second RAID1 volume). It

RE: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-16 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
decided that the 22-disk layout just doesn't work for us. With only two 4-way stripe sets, we get vastly superior I/O thruput that more than compensates for any contention on any of the stripes. Yes, yes, I understand that with mirroring the total drive count is 16. But since this is only a volatile

RE: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-15 Thread Kimberly Smith
:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Disk Layout Document I believe the Oracle DBA Handbook by Kevin Loney has that... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Larry Elkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City

RE: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-15 Thread Jesse, Rich
After many DB copies, loads, reloads, upgrades, etc., I've decided that the 22-disk layout just doesn't work for us. With only two 4-way stripe sets, we get vastly superior I/O thruput that more than compensates for any contention on any of the stripes. Yes, yes, I understand

RE: Disk Layout Document

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RE: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-15 Thread Kimberly Smith
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Disk Layout Document

2001-11-14 Thread Larry Elkins
Listers, Okay, I've been googling for about an hour now and can't find it. It seems like I remember seeing a white paper, note, or some sort of reference detailing preferred file layouts based on different number of disks -- e.g. 4 disks try this, with 5 disks try that. Does that ring a bell?

RE: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-14 Thread Grabowy, Chris
I believe the Oracle DBA Handbook by Kevin Loney has that... -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Listers, Okay, I've been googling for about an hour now and can't find it. It seems like I remember seeing a white paper,

RE: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-14 Thread Larry Elkins
: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Disk Layout Document I believe the Oracle DBA Handbook by Kevin Loney has that... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Larry Elkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858

Re: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-14 Thread Scott Shafer
Larry, There is some discussion of this in the Designing and Tuning for Performance docs at: http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_library/817_doc/server.817/a76992/ch20_io.htm#11672 URL will probably wrap. I'm sure this isn't exactly what you want, but its a good start. Scott

Re: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
dba handbook -- Kevin had a section on you should have 22 disks, then no, 17, then no 9.. --- Larry Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listers, Okay, I've been googling for about an hour now and can't find it. It seems like I remember seeing a white paper, note, or some sort of reference

RE: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Disk Layout Document I believe the Oracle DBA Handbook by Kevin Loney has that... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Larry Elkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City

RE: Disk layout

2001-10-04 Thread O'Neill, Sean
From: Steven Hovington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:33:52 +0100 Subject: Disk layout Could anyone please point me towards documentation which discusses optimum disk layouts for Oracle databases. Some other useful sources: http://www.ipass.net/~davesisk/oont_config_bpft.htm

Disk layout

2001-10-03 Thread Steven Hovington
Could anyone please point me towards documentation which discusses optimum disk layouts for Oracle databases. Thanks in advcance. Steven. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steven Hovington INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services--

RE: Disk layout

2001-10-03 Thread Christopher Spence
DBA Handbook if I remember had a nice section on disk layouts starting out with preferred and scaled down. Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978)

Re: Disk layout

2001-10-03 Thread satar naghshineh
It's real easy, pay close attention... Put every Oracle object on it's own disk drive and controller. If your table is too huge and you must use more than one disk drive, then make sure that each disk drive has it's own disk bus. Larry will then come to your site and run benchmark testing and

RE: Disk layout

2001-10-03 Thread Steve Barlow
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Re: Disk layout

2001-10-03 Thread Suzy Vordos
Here's a good one: http://www.quest.com/whitepapers/Raid1.pdf Steven Hovington wrote: Could anyone please point me towards documentation which discusses optimum disk layouts for Oracle databases. Thanks in advcance. Steven. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

Optimal Disk Layout??

2001-09-21 Thread Walter K
Hi, I'm encuntering a relatively high iowait percentage when my hot backups are running. The platform is Sun (E420 2cpu running SunOS 5.7) with an A1000 disk array (8 9Gb drives, hardware Raid-5). The array is one volume and all DB components (redo, archive, data, index, system, etc.) are on the

RE: Optimal Disk Layout??

2001-09-21 Thread Christopher Spence
1. depends on the stripe width, data may be on one or many drives, parity will always get written to all. 2. I believe your performance will be better; you have 6 drives for data, and 4 for archive/redo. That equates to 12 drives over the previous 8. However, you were using all eight for

RE: Optimal Disk Layout??

2001-09-21 Thread Walter K
Isn't it 3 drives for data, not 6, because of the mirroring? I agree, mirroring the extra 4 (9Gb) drives isn't necessary because this can be accomplished via the DB config. Veritas is also being used on the existing array and the sys admin seems to think that we've got extra overhead for that on

Re: Optimal Disk Layout??

2001-09-21 Thread satar naghshineh
Hi Walter, It looks like you're having a bottleneck on your controller during a hot backup. This is a result of (1) reading the data then (2) writing the data and compressing the data within the same controller. To answer your questions: 1. During RAID 5, all your disks are being written to and

disk layout

2001-07-31 Thread Seema Singh
Hi Which Unix command is used to see disk layout in sun cluster and veritas cluster on sun solaris? Thanks in advance. -Seema _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official

RE: Disk layout for datafiles

2001-07-03 Thread Guy Hammond
PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:31 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Disk layout for datafiles I found and then lost a Metalink document about laying out datafiles underfive or seven mount points. Does anyone have a link to this note, or any regarding dataf

RE: Disk layout for datafiles

2001-07-03 Thread Yosi
03, 2001 4:50 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Disk layout for datafiles It's called the Optimal Flexible Architecture, or OFA (pronounced "ofa"). A Google search brings up lots of resources onit: http://www.google.com/search?q=Optimal+Flexible

RE: Disk layout for datafiles

2001-07-03 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I thought OFA was short for Oh Freakin Eh -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:06 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Disk layout for datafiles Pronounced "ofa?" I've always

RE: Disk layout for datafiles

2001-07-03 Thread JOE TESTA
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Disk layout for datafiles Pronounced "ofa?" I've always pronounced it "Oh Eff Ay." Does this say something about my certification? Or is it a 9i thing? :-) I need a job. Pronounced "job." Yosi -Original

Disk layout for datafiles

2001-07-02 Thread Hagedorn, Linda
I found and then lost a Metalink document about laying out datafiles underfive or seven mount points. Does anyone have a link to this note, or any regarding datafile naming conventions/path layouts for unix/sun? Thanks, Linda

RE: Disk layout for datafiles

2001-07-02 Thread Mohan, Ross
Search under "OFA" or "Optimal Flexible Architecture" for a wealth of information. -Original Message-From: Hagedorn, Linda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:31 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Disk layout for

RE: Disk layout for datafiles

2001-07-02 Thread Hagedorn, Linda
Thank you Ross. -Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 12:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Disk layout for datafiles Search under "OFA" or "Optimal Flexible Architectur