Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-04 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Stephane, Three things I don't need to tell you about your example: Prior to CPU-costing in 9, the order of single table predicates can have a dramatic impact on CPU without changing the amount of logical I/O. Logical I/O should always include the statistics buffer is pinned count - it's just

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-02 Thread Goulet, Dick
Had to forward this to the God of Obfuscated SQL here. He in the past created a select * from bom_with_assembly_steps query in a Forms3 application that could take as long as an hour to complete. Something on similar lines to what you have. Thank GOD for Explain SQL/Platinum Plan Analyzer!!

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-02 Thread Karen Morton
Stephanie, I've ran into the exact same thing that statistics don't always tell the real story and that the bottom-line has to be elapsed time. I am curious however as to how you wrote the best performing (fastest) query. I have a client who uses the exact same structure and methodology you

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-02 Thread Jesse, Rich
Once upon a time, I had a developer come to my desk complaining that their query ran very poorly that day, Monday, and that it ran fine on Friday. And since we had a snapshot of the DB as of that Friday, the dev showed me. The dev also said that the only change was that WE changed the statistics

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-02 Thread Karen Morton
Thanks Stephane (1000 pardons on the earlier spelling FO-PAH!). -Original Message- Faroult Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Karen Morton wrote: Stephanie, Cough, cough. I've ran into the exact same thing that statistics don't always

Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-01 Thread Stephane Faroult
The case is not as bad as the subject may let you believe, but not quoting Disreali was above my strength ... Anyway, an interesting case encountered today. Basically, a dreadful query, involving a reasonably big table with an innate tree structure (the stuff connect bys are made of), accessed

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-01 Thread Sarnowski, Chris
-Original Message- From: Stephane Faroult interesting tuning case study snipped A moral to the story? SET TIMING ON. What matters is elapsed time, not stats. That said, I must check events next week. Another lesson, which probably wouldn't make any difference in your case, is

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-01 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Congratulations Stephane -- a good lesson for us all. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The case is not as bad as the subject may let you believe,