Oh yes, the RDD story is good. Carel-Jan and I were in Paris for Oracle
World, sharing the horrendous costs of a hotel room, and having one
final beer when the phone rang at 2 am.
It was a Dane, and it was also one of Miracle's support customers. Since
our motto for Miracle Support is Call us
software on it. If your on SAN, you dont
install SAN software on it.
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That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has
Oracle Managed Files where you give it a directory
and then just build tablespaces
software on it. If your on SAN, you dont
install SAN software on it.
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It's the Best of Breed versus One Vendor debate, and there are pros and
cons galore.
The perfect scenario, of course, is when they combine, so one vendor
delivers the
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That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has
Oracle Managed Files where you give it a directory
and then just build tablespaces. The database picks
the filenames for you. Now mind you it does work,
but I'll
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That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has
Oracle Managed Files where you give it a directory
and then just build
That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has Oracle Managed Files where you give
it a directory and then just build tablespaces. The database picks the filenames for
you. Now mind you it does work, but I'll be damned if I use it in anything other than
a development environment. For some
dont install SAN software on it.
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That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has Oracle Managed Files
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That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has Oracle Managed Files where you
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That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has
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That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has
Oracle Managed Files where you give it a directory
and then just build tablespaces. The database
software on it. If your on SAN, you dont install SAN software on it.
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That is not exactly a new feature
software on it.
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That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has
Oracle Managed Files where
I was in Reston last night, too. Also, Tom repeatedly
emphasized RMAN, which I've not spent enough time
mastering, will be even more important in 10g. Does
everyone here use RMAN that is using 9i currently?
BTW. Tom mentioned SAME, as you say, but I can not
remember what he said about it. Sorry.
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Just a couple of comments on this which hopefully won't go down the
Marketing track too
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And the more that vendor, namely the database in this case, controls more
and more of the stack
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I was in Reston last night, too. Also, Tom repeatedly
emphasized RMAN, which I've not spent enough time
mastering, will be even more important in 10g. Does
everyone here use RMAN
Tanel,
Thanks for sharing the presentation in the 10g features.
I started looking at the slides and I have a question about the cross
platform transportable tablespaces and the command you used.
From what I gather in the command I can take a Unix based datafile and
convert it to a Microsoft
Hi!
Tanel,
Thanks for sharing the presentation in the 10g features.
I started looking at the slides and I have a question about the cross
platform transportable tablespaces and the command you used.
From what I gather in the command I can take a Unix based datafile and
convert it to a
I concur.
Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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Excellent slide show Tanel!
Robert
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Yes .. that is good.
GovindanK
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Excellent slide show Tanel!
Robert
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dc_histogram_defs)
Pete, I'd like to
Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning
problem
that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new
features.
Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not
the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my
Excellent slide show Tanel!
Robert
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dc_histogram_defs)
Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning
problem
that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the
Tanel,
Whthough they may not have the sqlplusw.exe for windoes is the sqlplus.exe
still there?
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Excellent slide show
On 12/10/2003 04:34:25 PM, Tanel Poder wrote:
Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning
problem
that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new
features.
Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not
the
.
Jared
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Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning
problem
that would compel me to start testing 10g
Yep, sqlplus.exe will still be there. Otherwise one wouln't be able to run
any automated sql scripts, because isqlplus can't do it as far as I
understand.
Tanel.
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Hi, Gopa:
I ever saw you can rename tablespace via transportable tablespace via edit the dmp
file and reimport metadata into database. But it is not one command line. How do you
rename tablespace in 9i?
I tested rename tablespace in 10i beta1 and found rename tablespace does update
Yong:
I was not joking. Actually there is a command to rename tablespaces in 9i
and that is undocumented. IIRC it is with some FROM and TO options or
something similar to that.
Let me check that come back to you offline..
KG
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I was not joking. Actually there is a command to rename tablespaces in 9i
and that is undocumented. IIRC it is with some FROM and TO options or
something similar to that.
Let me check that come back to you offline..
^^
Gopal, please let us all
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Yong:
I was not joking. Actually there is a command to rename tablespaces in 9i
and that is undocumented. IIRC it is with some FROM and TO options or
something similar to that.
Let me check that come back to you offline..
KG
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Raj
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OK KG, the cat is out of the
bag. Now you have to tell all of
us. Especially Raj. :) Jared
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Raj
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Btw, bold guys from Polish Oracle User Group have put out Oracle's 10g New Features beta documentation at their website
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The link is dead.
:( But thanks to the
googlecache effect, you can still see the doc: http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:UVsNMDV-OBIJ:www.ploug.org.pl/konf_03/Oracle10g_New_Features.pdf+Oracle10g_New_Features.pdfhl=enie=UTF-8
... and now printed and nicely bound. :)
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Exactly, until the doc
That's a nice article. The author could have enhanced it by adding or changing
some wording.
The buffer cache can be flushed with alter system flush buffer_cache. - ...
instead of using the undocumented alter session set events = 'immediate trace
name flush_cache' in 9i
SQL: Regular Expressions
Jared:
'alter tablespace rename' is not the REAL 10g
feature. It is available
from 9.2 onwards... :) Hope you know what I
mean,,
KG
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Actually, I don't understand what you mean. Here is 9.2:
SQL create tablespace test datafile '/data/oradata/data/test01.dbf'
2 size 10M extent management local autoallocate
3 segment space management auto;
Tablespace created.
SQL alter tablespace test rename to test01;
alter tablespace test
Gopal was joking about the fact that Jared only said 'alter tablespace rename'
instead of ALTER TABLESPACE RENAME DATAFILE.
In fact, 9.2 SQL Reference has this
Moving and Renaming Tablespaces: Example
This example moves and renames a datafile associated with the tbs_01 tablespace
from
Not sure I get it either. :)
The command listed on the 10g site that I referred to is this:
alter tablespace ts_user rename to ts_user_01;
Renaming a tablespace is apparently possible with 10g.
Must be a joke here somewhere I'm missing.
Jared
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 20:09, Yong Huang
How can *you* not get it? Gopal says in Oracle 9.2, 'alter tablespace rename'
is possible. Of course. The full syntax is alter tablespace mytablespace rename
datafile '/path/file.dbf' to '/path/newfile.dbf'. You see the three words
'alter', 'tablespace' and 'rename' in there?
You'll get it in the
Yes, I think you must be right. It's late, and I've been
playing with indexes for a couple hours.
Jared
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 20:44, Yong Huang wrote:
How can *you* not get it? Gopal says in Oracle 9.2, 'alter tablespace rename'
is possible. Of course. The full syntax is alter tablespace
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