RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I don't know whether this is a tangent, but I notice that on the windows platform, compressed exports can still get 85% compression when zipping them with WinZip. Obviously Oracle compressed=y doesn't mean compress the export file, it just means that it places all the segments contiguously in

RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Patrice - That would be correct. If you run export interactively, the prompt that is provided is compress extents (y/n). Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:08 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't know

RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Rachel_Carmichael
| || | |+- | || | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: (bcc: Rachel Carmichael) | | Subject: RE: Compressing Export Dumps / | | WinZip

RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Taylor, Shirley
Doesn't it mean that all rows are compressed into 1 extent? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip I don't know whether this is a tangent, but I notice

RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Paul Baumgartel
That's right. compress=y is the export default; it causes all extents of an object to be combined into one. --- Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know whether this is a tangent, but I notice that on the windows platform, compressed exports can still get 85% compression when

Re: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Tim Gorman
The compress=y option doesn't have any effect on how data is stored in the export dump file, only some of the metadata. It directs the EXP program to recalculate the DDL for all of the tables and indexes (instead of just using the settings in the data dictionary) so that all space previously

RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Freeman, Robert
Ok is this a joke?? If not, I think someone needs to crack the Oracle Utilities manual... RF -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:08 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't know whether this is a tangent, but I notice that on the windows platform,

RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Freeman, Robert
Subject:RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip I don't know whether this is a tangent, but I notice that on the windows platform, compressed exports can still get 85% compression when zipping them with WinZip. Obviously Oracle compressed=y doesn't mean compress the export file, it just means

RE: Compressing Export Dumps/WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Hately Mike
Large chunks of export files are entirely readable. You can open them in vi and read it because character data is stored as plain text, hence the potentially good compression rates. I agree I wouldn't like to have to decipher a lot of numeric fields. Regards, Mike Hately BTW Robert (Freeman),

RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Message- Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip I don't know whether this is a tangent, but I notice that on the windows platform, compressed exports can still get 85% compression when zipping them

RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Hately Mike
Tim, I may be wrong but I thought that compress=y just adds up the total space allocation from SEG$ rather than calculating them from storage parameters. I know this is a trivial point but I'd appreciate the info if it sets about things differently. regards, Mike Hately -Original

RE: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Cary Millsap
Export Dumps / WinZip I don't know whether this is a tangent, but I notice that on the windows platform, compressed exports can still get 85% compression when zipping them with WinZip. Obviously Oracle compressed=y doesn't mean compress the export file, it just means that it places all the segments

Re: Compressing Export Dumps / WinZip

2002-05-16 Thread Tim Gorman
It all depends which words you use -- sorry for the ambiguity... As Cary replied earlier, EXP just queries sys.seg$ (i.e. DBA_SEGMENTS) to find the bytes and uses that for the newly-calculated INITIAL. This can be seen in a SQL Trace initiated on the EXP's server process... - Original