RE: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-14 Thread Patterson, Mark
Hi I have used S-Designer and ERWin in the past - both in development DBA roles. Don't recall exact features of S-Designer (was about 5 to 6 years ago) but remember it to be very useful. Have more recent experiences of ERWin and found it very useful. It is expensive but well worth the

RE: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-14 Thread Odland, Brad
There is a nice tool for Linux...DBDesigner4... -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi I have used S-Designer and ERWin in the past - both in development DBA roles. Don't recall exact features of S-Designer (was about 5

RE: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-14 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I use Oracle Designer. Works great - I'm very happy with it. It does have w to much functionality for Database Design. But I ignore those parts of the product and use just what I need. Works for me. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent:

RE: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-14 Thread Jared . Still
the logical from the physical either. Jared Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/14/2003 09:44 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs

RE: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-14 Thread adamdonahue
PROTECTED] To Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject RE: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job I use Oracle Designer. Works great - I'm very happy with it. It does have w to much functionality for Database Design. But I ignore those parts of the product

RE: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-14 Thread TOMPKINS, MARGARET
I couldn't agree more! It also has the Oracle Software Configuration Management (SCM) to rigorously version all those Repository objects. Maggie Respectfully, Maggie Tompkins - CAD SQA Corporate Applications Division Technology Services Organization - Kansas City Defense Finance and

Re: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-13 Thread Mladen Gogala
You forgot perl. On 2003.10.13 20:34, quriyat wrote: How essential the following tools to a DBAs job? (viz) Rational Rose, Clear case for Versioning etc. What are Data Modelling tools avbl. in the market and which are widely used (other than Oracle Designer)?. TIA

RE: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-13 Thread Melanie Caffrey
If you're using Rational Rose, are you interested in UML modeling? For if so, you might want to check out a tool created by Dulcian, Inc. called BRIM. http://www.dulcian.com It's a free tool, but I do believe that you must contact them for an initial consultation. I am not sure about all of

Re: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-13 Thread Mark Richard
I guess how important depends on what type of DBA role you are filling. If it's a system type DBA role where your only real task is to keep the database running and perform some basic backup / recovery type work then understanding the intricacies of table relationships isn't very important. If

Re: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-13 Thread Todd Boss
I'd say having some sort of data modelling tool at your disposal is pretty much essential to understanding the table layouts and relationships for anything but the most trivial model. If you do any sort of data modeling or database design, or if you interface with developers, having a nice ERD

Re: Data Modelling Tools for a DBAs Job

2003-10-13 Thread Stephane Faroult
quriyat wrote: How essential the following tools to a DBAs job? (viz) Rational Rose, Clear case for Versioning etc. What are Data Modelling tools avbl. in the market and which are widely used (other than Oracle Designer)?. TIA The only essential DBA tool is sqlplus. Modelling tools can