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2002-05-24 Thread Rachel Carmichael
: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? Dennis, I have on my desk, all in varying stages of being read: Inmon's book Building the Data Warehouse (very understandable) Kimball's articles from his site and from

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2002-05-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
, Ian A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/21/2002 05:48 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? I am

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2002-05-23 Thread Jack Silvey
by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/21/2002 05:48 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? I am new to his books, three

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2002-05-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? I am new to his books, three chapters in. The first release of the Data Warehouse Toolkit defines a data warehouse much as a data mart

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2002-05-23 Thread Grabowy, Chris
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? I am new to his books, three chapters in. The first release of the Data Warehouse Toolkit defines a data warehouse much

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2002-05-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? I am new to his books, three chapters in. The first release of the Data Warehouse Toolkit defines a data warehouse much as a data mart is today

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2002-05-23 Thread Yechiel Adar
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2002-05-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Dennis, We are active participants in the process. We are also making an offer to someone with an extensive background in developing data warehouses, which will help me to sleep much more comfortably at night :) Rachel --- DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rachel - Glad Inmon's book

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2002-05-23 Thread Ron Rogers
Rachel, This was just received from the SearchDatabase email and I thought it might be of interest to you. . TODAY'S BI STRATEGY: Placement of the data warehouse (Part 2) By William McKnight, SearchCRM Expert Another question I received [last week at the Data Warehousing

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2002-05-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
ron, Even without reading the rest of the article, my first instinct is to scream NOO and, after reading the article, it appears the author agrees with me. I have a sane boss. an intelligent boss. He is management, not damagement he has the same concerns about what the

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2002-05-23 Thread Jared . Still
Dennis Williams wrote: Personally, I have understood everything that Kimball has written and have never been able to read one of Inmon's articles to the end. But maybe that is just me. No, it's not just you. I can't read him either. It's like taking a walk through a briar patch without a

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2002-05-23 Thread Ron Rogers
Rachel, Having the same backup problems as talked about in the article, I can agree with the views and opinions of the author. The second part of the article dealt with the placement of the data and type of operation on the data in the same instance. I have mixed emotions about that idea.

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2002-05-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jared - Hmmm. . . if Rachel finds him very readable, does that mean: a) she will shortly explain Inmon to the rest of us dumb DBAs. b) she will become incomprehensible to the rest of us. Sorry Rachel, couldn't resist. Actually, I am hoping for option A. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc.

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2002-05-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I have NOT read his articles. Nor have I gotten all THAT far into the book however, the prep work I did before starting his book (reading the Oracle docs, reading some Kimball articles, searching the web) may be the reason I find him readable. Of course, it could just be that I am smarter than

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2002-05-23 Thread Peter . McLarty
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Fax to: Subject:RE: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? Dennis, I have on my desk, all in varying stages of being read: Inmon's book Building the Data Warehouse

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2002-05-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
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2002-05-23 Thread Jack Silvey
by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23-05-2002 11:13 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Fax to: Subject:RE: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? Dennis

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2002-05-23 Thread Madhusudhanan Sampath
: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:33:26 -0800 Rachel - Glad Inmon's book is working for you. I have only read (or more correctly attempted to read) his articles, which can be found at http://www.datawarehousing.com/, or at least

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2002-05-22 Thread FOX, Simon
- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you gee, and here I thought all I had to do was put the book under my pillow and let the words

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2002-05-22 Thread Thomas Day
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2002-05-22 Thread Jared . Still
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2002-05-22 Thread Jack Silvey
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2002-05-22 Thread Jack Silvey
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2002-05-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Warehouse experts, a simple question for you| Outdated? I am new to his books, three chapters in. The first release of the Data Warehouse Toolkit defines a data warehouse much as a data mart is today. Today we think of a data warehouse as having a highly normalized structure which stores

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2002-05-21 Thread Jared . Still
: Subject:Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60? joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Add a generated PK to the time dimension. The PK is stored as an FK in the fact table. That way you can select from

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2002-05-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael
ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60? joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Add a generated PK to the time dimension. The PK is stored as an FK

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2002-05-21 Thread Jack Silvey
Warehouse experts, a simple question for you looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60? joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Add a generated PK to the time dimension. The PK is stored as an FK in the fact table. That way you can select from the time dimension

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2002-05-21 Thread Jack Silvey
to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60? joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

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2002-05-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael
PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60? joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Add a generated PK to the time dimension. The PK

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2002-05-21 Thread Gogala, Mladen
apart. Make sure that you have few gallons of water at hand, though. -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you gee

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2002-05-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
:Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60? joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Add a generated PK to the time dimension. The PK is stored as an FK in the fact table. That way you can select from the time dimension by year

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2002-05-21 Thread Jack Silvey
PROTECTED] 05/20/2002 05:53 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you looks like published aug

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2002-05-21 Thread Jack Silvey
. -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you gee, and here I thought all I had to do was put the book

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2002-05-21 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you Okay you guys are silly. I have probably a stupid basic question to ask. How important is it to store data (let's say state codes, county codes with leading zeroes as character versus numeric). What is the standard out there? Does

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2002-05-21 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/20/2002 05:53 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you looks like published aug

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2002-05-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael
that you have few gallons of water at hand, though. -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you gee, and here I

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2002-05-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael
PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60? joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Add a generated PK

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2002-05-20 Thread Wong, Bing
calendar_date calendar_month calendar_qtrcalendar_year 200201011 1 2002 200301011 1 2003 Mh... The calendar_date(or changed to calendar_day) should be just the day of the month since you already have

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2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still
Joe, Add a generated PK to the time dimension. The PK is stored as an FK in the fact table. That way you can select from the time dimension by year, day, qtr, whatever, and easily pick out the correct fact table rows. The Data Warehouse Lifecycle Toolkit includes a spreadsheet to generate

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2002-05-20 Thread Joe Testa
looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60? joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Add a generated PK to the time dimension. The PK is stored as an FK in the fact table. That way you can select from the time dimension by year, day, qtr, whatever, and easily pick out the correct