RE: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-28 Thread Gene Sais
maybe 10i will allow table pt in time recovery :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/02 05:53PM you mean the export? it's a lot easier to recover a single table from an export and let everyone else keep working. AFAIK, Oracle still doesn't do table-level recovery, the lowest granularity is tablespace. I

RE: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-28 Thread Rachel Carmichael
isn't that supposed to be flashback query? :) --- Gene Sais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe 10i will allow table pt in time recovery :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/02 05:53PM you mean the export? it's a lot easier to recover a single table from an export and let everyone else keep working.

RE: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-28 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
It is pretty easy to restore and recover a single table to an arbitrary point in time from a physical backup. I don't think Oracle needs to provide an extra feature. You restore a small subset of the database (system, rollbacks and the tablespace with the table in it), offline drop the

RE: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-28 Thread Rachel Carmichael
oh god I was teasing about flashback query! I don't really think it's robust enough for production recoveries. Technically you don't need server-managed undo to use flashback query, it will work with manually managed rollback segments. But you have less of a chance for the data to still be in the

RE: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
you mean the export? it's a lot easier to recover a single table from an export and let everyone else keep working. AFAIK, Oracle still doesn't do table-level recovery, the lowest granularity is tablespace. I could be wrong. Also, exports are good at letting you clone users and application

Re: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Meomeo Nguyen
Hi Tim and Connor, Thanks you all for your very helpful feedback. I do appreciate it very much. In fact, we are in development at this point, so the database is small and transaction volume is very low. Therefore, my choice for primary backup method is the cold backups. However, to safeguard

Re: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Good choice...archivelog mode will make your life as a DBA much easier. Have a look at doing hot backups with rman. Regards, Ruth - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:12 PM Hi Tim and Connor, Thanks you all for

Re: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Keith Peterson
lets not forget the classic exp. 1. Production database (where you can't lose a single transaction) - ARCHIVEMODE absolutely 2. Development database (few hrs of transactions ok to lose) - cold backups 3. Development database (no schema changes, say an application is being developed with a tool

Re: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Gene Sais
my backup strategy, fwiw: prod - cold monthly, hot 2x week, exp weekly. test - cold, hot, exp occassional, always can refresh from prod. dev - cold hot occassional, exp daily. all dbs are in archivelogmode! gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/24/02 03:04PM lets not forget the classic exp. 1.

RE: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Kevin Lange
If you truely mean that ALL of your databases are in ArchiveLog Mode, why would you do that to your Test and Dev databases ? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L my backup strategy, fwiw: prod - cold monthly, hot 2x week, exp

Re: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Stephane Faroult
Kevin Lange wrote: If you truely mean that ALL of your databases are in ArchiveLog Mode, why would you do that to your Test and Dev databases ? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L my backup strategy, fwiw: prod -

Re: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Meomeo Nguyen
Thank you all for your responses.You all really confused me about this issue.The whole database backups can be consistentor inconsistent.To perform a consistent whole databse backup is the only valid backup option for databases running in NOARCHIVELOG mode. In contrast,an inconsistent backup is

RE: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Gene Sais
b/c the dba has to develop and test on occassion :). i like all dbs the same. oracle is much friendlier to various recoveries in archivelogmode. besides, i generate .01% of the archives i generate in prod. i can afford a few mb. again, this is my strategy, one of many. whether its best

Re: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Jared Still
Meomeo, Your confusion will be eliminated by acquiring 'Oracle Backup and Recovery Handbook' by Rama Velpuri. Read it: do all of the examples. There is *no* other way. Jared On Friday 24 May 2002 13:53, Meomeo Nguyen wrote: Thank you all for your responses. You all really confused me

RE: Database backup question.Thank You

2002-05-24 Thread Steve McClure
y 24, 2002 1:54 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Database backup question.Thank You Thank you all for your responses.You all really confused me about this issue.The whole database backups can be consistentor inconsistent.To perform a consistent whole databse b