RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Guy Hammond
Hello, Slightly unrelated question... is it better to (in pseudo code) : 1) for each tablespace loop put tablespace in backup mode end loop for each datafile in the database loop copy data file end loop for each tablespace loop put tablespace in normal mode end loop

RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Hot Backup Issue Guy, I would have thought 2) was best as you are reducing the concurrency (I think that is the right word) of redo log activity. As each tablespace is in backup mode it writes the full block to the redo log when any changes are made. On the assumption that all

RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
well 1 is simpler to code. :) However, if you put all tablespaces in backup mode at once, you will be generating a LOT of extra redo and archived logs. That's because even if you are not currently backinf up that tablespace (say you already HAVE backed it up), you will still have to write full

RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Ron Rogers
Guy, Some reasons why NOT to put all tablespaces in the backup mode at once (step 1) is that the tranactions against the database could create a lot of redo and archive logs that could fill the space, tranaction time could be longer as it now reads the redo not the tables, Snapshot to old

Re: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Don Granaman
The main disadvantage of #1 is that lgwr will write full blocks to the redo logs for the entire database until the entire backup is finished. If that takes a while and there is significant activity, it can generate tremendous amounts of redo - and archive. Lgwr and the I/O subsystem are doing

RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Guy Hammond
Title: RE: Hot Backup Issue That makes sense, I just wanted to check :0) And of course, transactions in other tablespaces would be writing redo as normal. The overall level of redo generated would surely be less, tho'? Because say you had 5 tablespaces and put them all into hotbackup mode

RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Ron Rogers wrote: Some reasons why NOT to put all tablespaces in the backup mode at once (step 1) is that the tranactions against the database could create a lot of redo and archive logs that could fill the space, tranaction time could be longer as it now reads the redo

RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
-Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 11:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Ron Rogers wrote: Some reasons why NOT to put all tablespaces in the backup mode at once (step 1) is that the tranactions against the database could create a

RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Rajesh Dayal
I think, I need to answer this original post( late, because our time zone is different ;-)) I was doing this in the test environment ( which I mentioned in my original post too) with total database size of 250 Mb. To make the testing easier I had adopted some random method. At that

Re: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I am making the assumption here that you are doing recover database using backup controlfile when you do the backup In this case, what is happening to you is normal. The controlfile doesn't know what the last scn is supposed to be, so all you have to do is cancel the recovery once the last

RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-01 Thread Rajesh Dayal
Rachel, You are absolutely right!! Just after dropping the mail I continued with the tests, and discovered the same theory. Thanks a lot for reply. Best Regards, Rajesh -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-01 Thread Saurabh Sharma
hi, i feel u need to give the name of online redo log file after u had applied all the archived log files, if it's asking for more files. this should solve ur problem. pls let me know if it not. i'll try finding other issues also. saurabh - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of