RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Lee
Goes by the name of: William Wallace Marilyn Monroe Cloud* *(of Final Fantasy 7) -Original Message- Okay, now I have an image of Tim, in a kilt, standing over a grate, with his face painted with Blue vertical stripes and a big sword strapped to his back! -- Please see the

RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Thomas Day
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RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
guess that depends on the gender of the person looking :) --- Henry Poras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a kilt, standing over a grate not quite Marilyn Monroe -Original Message- Daniel Fink Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Tanel Poder
Note that in previous mail, my reply starts from 2nd paragraph, the first one wasn't indented correctly for some reason.. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:59 PM As for the datafiles and indexfiles

Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Gorman
Dave, There is little about the size of datafiles to affect the performance of SQL statements, but there is much to affect the performance of backup and restore and administration. Uniform-sized datafiles simplify the administration of space. The speed of a backup or restore is a function of

RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Lee
If by multiple datafiles that ... you mean for a single tablespace then: It's possible to stripe a tablespace across drives by hand, but it is no substitute for real, genuine hardware or software striping. I'm a little foggy on the by hand process since (I think) it is considered an archaic

RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Fermin Bernaus
In my experience, spreading datafiles across volumes (specially if you are careful not to locate the a table's datafiles and its indexes datafiles in the same drive) greatly increases performance. As for the file size, I can not say because I have not tested it, but I think it

RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Fermin Bernaus
drive I think performance should be worst than if they were separated, right or wrong? ... Regards, Fermin. -Mensaje original- De: Tim Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves, 07 de agosto de 2003 17:19 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Asunto: Re: Multiple Datafiles

Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Tim, Indexed access is a purely sequential activity from an I/O standpoint, putting aside the reality that a buffer cache exists. First, we access the root block of the index and read its contents in order to know where to perform the next I/O (i.e. a branch block). Then we read that branch

Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Fink
Tim Gorman wrote: I don't mean to be argumentative, but every time I see assertions like these, I suspect someone has been reading some rather discredited books... Okay, now I have an image of Tim, in a kilt, standing over a grate, with his face painted with Blue vertical stripes and a big

RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Jesse, Rich
: Multiple Datafiles and performance? I don't mean to be argumentative, but every time I see assertions like these, I suspect someone has been reading some rather discredited books... So, my apologies in advance, but comments are inline below... In my experience, spreading datafiles

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2003-08-14 Thread Rajesh . Rao
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2003-08-14 Thread Dave Phillips
Thanks for the knowledge dump everyone! Based on your responses, I'll make the recommendation that our client go with 3 2.5G datafiles. They currently are 1 2.5G and 2 1G datafiles for the tablespace in question. Most of our clients have less than 30 datafiles, and I doubt will find any over 50.

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2003-08-14 Thread Tim Gorman
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Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! The benefits of spreading the data over as many physical access paths ( ~ disks ) using multiple datafiles notwithstanding, there is always the case of too much. Keep in mind that at checkpoint time the DBWR need to visit the header of every ( non read-only ) datafile. That's unlikely to

RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-14 Thread Henry Poras
a kilt, standing over a grate not quite Marilyn Monroe -Original Message- Daniel Fink Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Tim Gorman wrote: I don't mean to be argumentative, but every time I see assertions like these, I suspect someone

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2003-08-14 Thread Thomas Day
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2003-08-10 Thread Fermin Bernaus
ORACLE-L Asunto: RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance? I don't know of any advantage to uniform datafile sizes. Back in the day some DBAs preferred uniform datafile sizes so that they could easily move datafiles from disk to disk to balance physical IO. With modern disk configurations

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2003-08-09 Thread Guang Mei
: Sent by: Subject: RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance? ml-errors 08/07/2003 08:05 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L In my experience, spreading

Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-08 Thread Tanel Poder
As for the datafiles and indexfiles being distributed over different physical disks, well I can not confirm you are wrong, in our site id DID boost the performance, and specially if you locate in separate physical drives your redologs and datafiles (both indexes or data). Of course it depends on

RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-08 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
The benefits of spreading the data over as many physical access paths ( ~ disks ) using multiple datafiles notwithstanding, there is always the case of too much. Keep in mind that at checkpoint time the DBWR need to visit the header of every ( non read-only ) datafile. That's unlikely to be an

RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-08 Thread Dave Phillips
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Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-08 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
At 09:59 AM 8/7/2003 -0800, you wrote: Hi! The benefits of spreading the data over as many physical access paths ( ~ disks ) using multiple datafiles notwithstanding, there is always the case of too much. Keep in mind that at checkpoint time the DBWR need to visit the header of every ( non

Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-07 Thread Tim Gorman
I don't mean to be argumentative, but every time I see assertions like these, I suspect someone has been reading some rather discredited books... So, my apologies in advance, but comments are inline below... In my experience, spreading datafiles across volumes (specially if you are careful