Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-21 Thread Jared Still
]] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: OT: Working from home My theory is this. A loosely used ratio for performance reviews. (Number of Bugs Resolved x Number of Projects x Number of lines

Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-21 Thread Jared Still
I have fond memories of writing 1300 lines of code in one 12 hour day a few years back. This was a front end to a DOS version of RCS ( or something like RCS ) and it was for versioning an entire set of application code. Written in a compiled language called 'Force'. It even worked when I was

Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-21 Thread Nuno Souto
Hehehe! My record is 125 PL/SQL procedures in a day. Lost count of the lines of code. But I had VIM to help me... Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/the_Den - Original Message - I have fond memories of writing 1300 lines of code in one 12 hour day a

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-21 Thread Christopher Spence
Blah, I do about 2,000 lines just during lunch on a napkin before I go back to work. And I ussually put it on two napkins, one in assembly and one in a high level language like c++ so other people can read it. One time, I actually had to disassemble Oracle.exe as there was some code I didn't

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-21 Thread Mohan, Ross
LOL! -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Blah, I do about 2,000 lines just during lunch on a napkin before I go back to work. And I ussually put it on two napkins, one in assembly and one in a high level language like

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-18 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: OT: Working from home My theory is this. A loosely used ratio for performance reviews. (Number of Bugs Resolved x Number of Projects x Number of lines

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-18 Thread Greg Solomon
] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Christopher Spence [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: OT: Working from home My theory

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-18 Thread William Beilstein
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: OT: Working from home My theory is this. A loosely used ratio for performance reviews. (Number of Bugs Resolved x

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-18 Thread Guy Hammond
I believe that was counting lines of code per person/day over the entire development lifecycle, so some days you actually write no code because you were writing documentation, or sitting in meetings eating donuts or whatever. COBOL can actually be measured fairly well in terms of lines of code

Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-16 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 15 June 2001 06:00, Rachel Carmichael wrote: There was a manager in that same shop who measured her programmers abilities by the number of lines of code they wrote in a day. She also said to me once I don't like to waste time on design Rachel, Remember the Dilbert where the PHB

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-16 Thread Christopher Spence
My theory is this. A loosely used ratio for performance reviews. (Number of Bugs Resolved x Number of Projects x Number of lines of code - (Bugs introduced in your code x 500)) But use this with a grain of salt as many things are involved in programming and lines of codes, bugs, and number

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Toepke, Kevin M
people kept quitting on her. From: Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Working from home Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:45:53 -0800 - Original Message - So we all lied a lot. And this was sitting

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
, Kevin M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: Working from home Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:05:52 -0800 Come on Rachel. You mean that lines of code is not a good measure of a programmer's productivity? Next thing you'll

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread JOE TESTA
time on design"Truly. And they wondered why people kept quitting on her. From: "Nuno Souto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Working from home Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:45:53 -0800 -

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Henry Poras
One of my favorites is divying up how I spent my time each week. If a project has a problem and I spend 4 hours researching it before solving it, that is 4 hours to the project. But if I happened across that problem during my normal reading and research (i.e. this group or other web sites) that

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Kevin Lange
Lets not get into how we divied up time . otherwise I will be here for days !! We had to account for each 15 minute block . and THAT was when we were working in the office ! Our time sheets took, on average, about 2 hours out of each 2 week period to prepare. In my new job, they have

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
only when you write magazine articles or short stories. :) From: JOE TESTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: Working from home Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:31:12 -0800 so then if you use a REAL SMALL Font

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Christopher Spence
people kept quitting on her. From: Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Working from home Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:45:53 -0800 - Original Message - So we all lied a lot

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
le spaces between each word. Was this a bad thing? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message-From: JOE TESTA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:31 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT: Working from home so then

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Hand, Michael T
Number of pages has absolutely no bearring on a good book. Does the number of pages have a bearing on how well the database is administered?? ;) Hey, it's Friday and I always say Weak humor is better than no humor at all. Mike If I wasn't laughing, I'd be crying Hand Polaroid Corp. -- Please

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Khedr, Waleed
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: Working from home Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:05:52 -0800 Come on Rachel. You mean that lines of code is not a good measure of a programmer's productivity? Next thing you'll tell me the its not the number of pages that makes a book good? :- (fleeing for my life) -Original

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Chaim . Katz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: Working from home Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:05:52 -0800 Come on Rachel. You mean that lines of code is not a good measure of a programmer's productivity? Next thing you'll tell me

Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Greg Moore
Number of pages has absolutely no bearring on a good book. Yes it does. I don't like ones with too many! ;-) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051

Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-15 Thread Don Granaman
I can top that one! My first real Oracle job was at a company that was trying to convert from being a mainframe service bureau to becoming an open systems software vendor - when Oracle and open systems were near heresy in the business world. Only one other person and myself in the entire

Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-14 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - After all, how do they manage accountability when you are in the office? By the number of hours you sit at your desk or by the work that gets done, to deadline and correctly? In Australia, unfortunately it's the first option. Most managers wouldn't have a clue

RE: OT: Working from home

2001-06-14 Thread Kimberly Smith
I actually work for a company that is ok with working from home and have done it but I am now at a client that was quite insistent that everyone be here from 8-5. So we all pretty much said ok and we all now work much less hours. Sucks to be them. VPN is a god send though. When I have to take

Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-13 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Accountability: My boss judges by the fact that work gets done. I am treated as a responsible adult and he figures that I know what has to be done and will get the work done. They tend to let me manage myself in any case, onsite or telecommuting. He also knows that I am often working from

Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-13 Thread mohammed bhatti
Yep, allowed to work from home, but prefer working at the office. Accountability We have mutual trust between management and techies. I've got a pager and am on call 24x7. Work that has been assigned to us gets done and as long as it's done we're ok. We try extra hard not to break this trust

Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-13 Thread Stephen Andert
Mark, Well, in order to give you my 2 cents worth, lets answer those in order: Accountability: Work needs be get done whether in office or at home. If it gets done and db's are running well, it shouldn't matter where it gets done from. This is very hard for some managers to understand