RE: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion

2001-03-16 Thread Mark Leith
LOL William - had you not noticed that Jacques works for Quest!! Don't know abou you Jacques, but if I went to my management asking for them to supply a database management tool other than ours, I would be laughed at - flogged - and hung out to dry :) -Original Message- Beilstein Sent:

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2001-03-16 Thread Diana Duncan
As someone who may very well be laid off next week, I'm very appreciative of the article. ;-) One caveat -- Junior DBA's don't fare as well. Everyone and their brother seem to want at least 2 years experience. Luckily for me I've been doing this for a long time, but some of my former employees

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2001-03-16 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion -Original Message- From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] LOL William - had you not noticed that Jacques works for Quest!! Don't know abou you Jacques, but if I went to my management asking for them

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2001-03-15 Thread Gregory Conron
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Paul Drake wrote: How's this for starting down the path to the dark side? select 'spool bdbafh_gets_revenge.lst' from dual snip I prefer: spool later.sql select 'drop user '|| username || ' cascade;' from dba_users where username not in ('SYS','SYSTEM','GCONRON'); spool

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2001-03-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
id I leave that kevlar vest? Rachel From: Paul Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:10:33 -0800 How's this for starting dow

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2001-03-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I think I'll still use the original script. I AM that evil /wicked witch cackling laugh From: Paul Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion Date: Wed, 14 Mar

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2001-03-15 Thread Thater, William
Rachel Carmichael wrote: I think I'll still use the original script. I AM that evil /wicked witch cackling laugh it don't pay to make the goddess mad!;-) Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2001-03-15 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: jeudi, 15. mars 2001 06:43 nice, very nice. and just in time, as I have decided to put a stake in the ground (to quote our CTO

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2001-03-15 Thread William Beilstein
You should look into getting Palm's wireless pocket DBA, then you could hide in the woods and still get your work done 8-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/01 02:50PM -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: jeudi, 15. mars 2001 06:43 nice, very

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2001-03-15 Thread Jack C. Applewhite
Startling Quote from below: "She points out that DBAs sometimes become necessary in new data architecture or warehousing projects." Only sometimes? If that is truly the trend, no wonder so many such projects fail! Jack Jack C. Applewhite Database

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2001-03-15 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: RE: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] HUMMM, It looks to me like you've given the keys to the kingdom to the developers, namely the system account. Well, I don't know about you

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2001-03-15 Thread Hutchins, Robert
Woke up this morning with a blue moon in my eye..The Sopranos's.. -Original Message- Sent: March 15, 2001 2:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: jeudi, 15.

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2001-03-14 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Did anybody explain you the path of a BDBAFH (DBA version of BOFH)? -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thanks a lot to all who have responded ! U guys really give me inspiration and motivation to go ahead and learn

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2001-03-14 Thread Paul Drake
How's this for starting down the path to the dark side? set pagesize 0 linesize 132 set heading off verify off termout off feedback off REM give them their own sandbox CREATE TABLESPACE "TRAFFIC" NOLOGGING DATAFILE 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEV\TRAFFIC.DBF' SIZE 128M EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL UNIFORM

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2001-03-14 Thread Paul Drake
sorry - that should have included the following line: 'ALTER USER '||username||' DEFAULT TABLESPACE traffic;'||chr(10)|| I'm not *that* evil. Pd Paul Drake wrote: How's this for starting down the path to the dark side? set pagesize 0 linesize 132 set heading off verify off

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2001-03-05 Thread andrey
Thanks a lot to all who have responded ! U guys really give me inspiration and motivation to go ahead and learn things . I decided to learn everything i could about Oracle ( mainly from these lists ) and simultaniously epand my Java experience . I think it's a good path ! Thanks a lot again for

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2001-02-27 Thread lerobe - Lee Robertson
Its not a rastafarian DBA introducing himself is it :-) -Original Message- Sent: 26 February 2001 20:43 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Does anyone know what iDBA is? --- Mohammad Rafiq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since version 4 and 5, it is constantly claimed by Oracle that

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2001-02-26 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Sure everything will be point and click! But it means nothing! Who will open tars, report bugs, download patches, etc?! When we're using Oracle 7, Oracle said that Oracle 8 will work by itself, tune itself, low cost maintenance, etc. So, tell me what happened? Also in my opinion DBA duties

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2001-02-26 Thread Smith, Ron L.
: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion Sure everything will be point and click! But it means nothing! Who will open tars, report bugs, download patches, etc?! When we're using Oracle 7, Oracle said that Oracle 8 will work by itself, tune itself

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2001-02-26 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
Since version 4 and 5, it is constantly claimed by Oracle that things will become smoother with new version but in reality all new versions come with new features and more complexites. Inspite intoducing tools like Enterprize Manager, DBA has to be involved in all aspect of System Maintenance.

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2001-02-26 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn
I agree, right now it is one of the best growing job markets. Computers will be around forever, and until they can operate themeselves, learn on their own and take care of themselves when they break, there will always be a need for people like us. Kev -Original Message- Rafiq Sent:

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2001-02-26 Thread Glenn Travis
I disagree. So does Parade magazine from yesterday's Sunday paper (for all you in the US that get it - it said that DBA demand is increasing 70% per year if I recalled the article correctly. I don't have it at work now, so please correct my numbers if you have it). -Original

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2001-02-26 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn
Nope, you are correct. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn TravisSent: Monday, February 26, 2001 3:47 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion I

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2001-02-26 Thread Dave Weber
Kevin Kostyszyn wrote: I agree, right now it is one of the best growing job markets. Computers will be around forever, and until they can operate themeselves, learn on their own and take care of themselves when they break, there will always be a need for people like us. Kev -Original