Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 2003.10.27 00:34, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: I have this radical idea that Oracle should include RAC in SE at no extra price (I think that would spread the product fast :) ), That would, quite likely, be the end of RAC. RAC is a great tool for those who need it, but it's far too complex for

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Mladen, Mogens - If Oracle were to slash prices, there are several factors to consider. First, what does that do to Oracle's bottom line? Would sales increase dramatically enough to keep overall revenue from falling? I think the stagnant economy over the last few years has been tough on everyone

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
I believe that Red Hat would be much better acquisition target then PeopleSoft. First of all, Peoplesoft doesn't seem to like the idea, second, Peoplesoft is very expensive. Red Hat would be much cheaper and would help oracle branch into other areas, where they could bundle database in a

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Mark Leith
And this is a good thing? ;) -Original Message- Mladen Gogala Sent: 27 October 2003 14:24 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I believe that Red Hat would be much better acquisition target then PeopleSoft. First of all, Peoplesoft doesn't seem to like the idea, second, Peoplesoft

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I remember reading something about this a couple of years ago. Another Larry pipe-dream. That he would keep developing the Rdbms-kernel so that he didn't need the any op-systems. If you think about it, the Rdbms is close to being it's own op-system. It provides a service on a machine

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread hrishy
Hi All oracle taking over redhat...makes lotta of sense...actually.. Redhat ProductsOracle Products Redahat DatabaseOracle Database Redhat collabration suite oracel collab suite Redhat Devlopement env Oracle ids Redhat strongholdweb

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Niall Litchfield
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mogens Nørgaard Sent: 27 October 2003 05:34 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down You had everybody convinced by your speach down there in South

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-26 Thread Rothouse, Michael
of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:19 PM -Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 12:44 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is MSEE

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-26 Thread Grant Allen
-Original Message- From: Rothouse, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 27 October 2003 00:04 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down I realized in my hasty response that I failed to complete my thought/question. My

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-26 Thread Grant Allen
[ .. snip snip ..] Sorry, correcting my own transposition (a page in SS2000 is eight 8kB extents) That should have read an extent is eight 8kB pages in SS2000. I'll go back to my cave, now. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Grant

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-26 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Of Ryan Sent: 23 October 2003 00:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing? anyone know the differences in prices? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-24 Thread Goulet, Dick
out there. Std Edition One pricing is what Std Edition should be selling at IMO. Niall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: 23 October 2003 00:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-24 Thread Stephen.Lee
You forgot No Unix. -Original Message- Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ... No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based indexes, no domain indexes, no reverse key indexes, no object tables, no before triggers (can be kludged, not pretty), no multiple

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-24 Thread Abey Joseph
-Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 12:44 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is MSEE lacking in? sound of can of worms opening Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ... No bitmap

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-24 Thread Jared Still
: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 12:44 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is MSEE lacking in? sound of can of worms opening Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ... No bitmap indexes

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-24 Thread Igor Neyman
12:44 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is MSEE lacking in? sound of can of worms opening Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ... No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based indexes, no domain indexes

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-24 Thread Rothouse, Michael
ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is MSEE lacking in? sound of can of worms opening Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ... No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based indexes, no domain indexes, no reverse key indexes, no object tables

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-24 Thread Todd Boss
ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is MSEE lacking in? sound of can of worms opening Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ... No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based indexes, no domain indexes, no reverse key indexes, no object

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-24 Thread Todd Boss
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RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
And this surprises you??? Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Technical Alliance Manager Compuware Corporation Direct: (313) 227-4350 Mobile: (248) 408-2918 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.compuware.com -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:24 PM To: Multiple

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread Goulet, Dick
NO, not really, but I was hoping based on Uncle Larry's statements. Lets put it this way, IF we could get a site license from Oracle (As Uncle Larry defined it) for the same price per year, or less, as our current support contract the discussions about SQL*Server and PostGreSql would come to a

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread Niall Litchfield
] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: 23 October 2003 00:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing? anyone know the differences in prices? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread Ryan
Edition One pricing is what Std Edition should be selling at IMO. Niall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: 23 October 2003 00:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread Ryan
. Niall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: 23 October 2003 00:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing? anyone know the differences in prices? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:24 PM http

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread David Mitchell
be selling at IMO. Niall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: 23 October 2003 00:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread Ryan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: 23 October 2003 00:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing? anyone know

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread Grant Allen
-Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 12:44 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is MSEE lacking in? sound of can of worms opening Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-23 Thread setiady
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down what is MSEE lacking in? sound of can of worms opening Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ... No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based indexes, no domain indexes, no reverse key indexes

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-22 Thread Ryan
what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing? anyone know the differences in prices? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:24 PM

RE: Oracle pricing question

2003-07-15 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
never mind, 4 seconds after I sent the e-mail I saw the items listed on a web page... sigh. Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:15 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Oracle used to sell databases options as add-ons to Oracle EE. I went to the Oracle Store web site,

RE: Oracle pricing question

2003-07-15 Thread Gogala, Mladen
That's a big sale, something like your friendly neighborhood Dodge sale. You can get Oracle Ram, with world's most powerful V8 engine and $3000 cashback with 0.7 APR. All bells and whistles like the Spatial Option, Transparent Gateways and Advanced Networking are included. Mladen Gogala Oracle

Re: Oracle pricing question

2003-07-15 Thread Ron Rogers
Patrice, The listing I have 09-06-2002, has separate prices for the options you listed. Prices are for named users license and Processor license. There might be a newer price list out but I haven't found it yet. The prices I show are EE 800/40,000 Spatial 200/10,000 Advanced Security 200/10,000

RE: Oracle pricing...

2002-10-12 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: RE: Oracle pricing... Guys, Thanks for the insight! rgds amar http://amzone.netfirms.com -Original Message- From: Karniotis, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle pricing

Re: Oracle pricing...

2002-10-09 Thread Jay Hostetter
Amar, All human users and non-human operated devices that are accessing the program Check out the software investment guide : http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/index.html?sig.html In particular, I like the 400-employees-on-30-forklifts example (pg. 15 of the guide). I would

RE: Oracle pricing...

2002-10-09 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Not only applies for web based applications, but also for TP monitoring applications like CICS, Tuxedo, etc. Some clients actually priced the number of concurrent connections via these TP monitors versus the 10,000 or so users that use them. Ouch! Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Product

RE: Oracle pricing...

2001-08-15 Thread Christopher Spence
I believe they are only selling 9i now and you opt to use 8i from what I am seeing. What sucks is my 550MHzx4 Xeon NT development license went from $90,000 to $160,000 with this new cheaper license scheme. Yeah bs. Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when

RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-30 Thread Eric D. Pierce
: RE: Oracle pricing Someone mentioned a site licence in their post. I did not know Oracle do site licences, a sales rep told me they didn't. ... Sean :) Rookie Data Base Administrator Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA

RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-27 Thread O'Neill, Sean
Someone mentioned a site licence in their post. I did not know Oracle do site licences, a sales rep told me they didn't. Is this still the case?. My experience of local area sales folk is that they don't seem to be too concerned about business. They are so slllooo at responding to RFIs

RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-27 Thread Kimberly Smith
I am the one who mentioned a site license. They really have to screw you over good to get that. When you have two equally big corporations going after you because of something done to screw you over and its extremely provable its amazing how they will bend. Like I said before, we have it

RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-26 Thread Van M. Etheridge
Title: Oracle pricing Yes I have. On the last set of quotes I got from Orance the price ranged from $175,000 to $70,000 for the same set of products. It just depended onwho I spoke with. I also think timing has something to do with it. Salesmen meeting quotas and the company reporting

RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-26 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: Message That is a good thing :) Now just get a third quote :) "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen." Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-26 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
They learned about the auditing of licenses from M$. Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 1:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Lisa, I've not experienced that particular behavior from the Oracle sales droids. But, we did have ours in yesterday (new

RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-26 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
And that 3rd quote must be from their authorised reseller, if any in your area, and let them fight to lower their quote. As it is slowing market, one must take advantage of it. In my past experience, I was putting all hardware vendors to compete including manufacturers and going for best

RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-26 Thread Orr, Steve
DITTO THAT! When I was interviewing for this new gig I referred the future boss to a reseller because I knew they were in the market for a new license. It saved them significant bucks so I responded, See! I haven't even started working for you and I've already saved you some big bucks... just

RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-26 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
Excellent.. MOHAMMAD RAFIQ DITTO THAT! When I was interviewing for this new gig I referred the future boss to a reseller because I knew they were in the market for a new license. It saved them significant bucks so I responded, See! I haven't even started working for you and I've already