On 2003.10.27 00:34, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
I have this radical idea that Oracle should include RAC in SE at no extra
price (I think that would spread the product fast :) ),
That would, quite likely, be the end of RAC. RAC is a great tool for those who
need it, but it's far too complex for
Mladen, Mogens - If Oracle were to slash prices, there are several factors
to consider. First, what does that do to Oracle's bottom line? Would sales
increase dramatically enough to keep overall revenue from falling? I think
the stagnant economy over the last few years has been tough on everyone
I believe that Red Hat would be much better acquisition target then
PeopleSoft. First of all, Peoplesoft doesn't seem to like the idea,
second, Peoplesoft is very expensive. Red Hat would be much cheaper
and would help oracle branch into other areas, where they could
bundle database in a
And this is a good thing?
;)
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Mladen Gogala
Sent: 27 October 2003 14:24
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I believe that Red Hat would be much better acquisition target then
PeopleSoft. First of all, Peoplesoft doesn't seem to like the idea,
second, Peoplesoft
I remember reading something about this a couple of years ago. Another
Larry pipe-dream. That he would keep developing the Rdbms-kernel so that he
didn't need the any op-systems.
If you think about it, the Rdbms is close to being it's own op-system. It
provides a service on a machine
Hi All
oracle taking over redhat...makes lotta of
sense...actually..
Redhat ProductsOracle Products
Redahat DatabaseOracle Database
Redhat collabration suite oracel collab
suite
Redhat Devlopement env Oracle ids
Redhat strongholdweb
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You had everybody convinced by your speach down there in
South
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what is MSEE
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I realized in my hasty response that I failed to complete my
thought/question. My
[ .. snip snip ..]
Sorry, correcting my own transposition
(a
page in SS2000 is eight 8kB extents)
That should have read an extent is eight 8kB pages in SS2000.
I'll go back to my cave, now.
Ciao
Fuzzy
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Of Ryan
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Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down
what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing?
anyone know the differences in prices?
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out there. Std Edition One
pricing is what Std Edition should be selling at IMO.
Niall
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You forgot No Unix.
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Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ...
No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based
indexes, no domain indexes, no reverse key indexes, no object
tables, no before triggers (can be kludged, not pretty), no
multiple
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what is MSEE lacking in?
sound of can of worms opening
Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ...
No bitmap
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what is MSEE lacking in?
sound of can of worms opening
Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ...
No bitmap indexes
12:44
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Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down
what is MSEE lacking in?
sound of can of worms opening
Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ...
No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based indexes,
no
domain indexes
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what is MSEE lacking in?
sound of can of worms opening
Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ...
No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based indexes,
no
domain indexes, no reverse key indexes, no object tables
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Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down
what is MSEE lacking in?
sound of can of worms opening
Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ...
No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based indexes,
no
domain indexes, no reverse key indexes, no object
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sound
And this surprises you???
Thank You
Stephen P. Karniotis
Technical Alliance Manager
Compuware Corporation
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NO, not really, but I was hoping based on Uncle Larry's statements. Lets put it this
way, IF we could get a site license from Oracle (As Uncle Larry defined it) for the
same price per year, or less, as our current support contract the discussions about
SQL*Server and PostGreSql would come to a
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what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing?
anyone know the differences in prices?
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Edition One
pricing is what Std Edition should be selling at IMO.
Niall
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Niall
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what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing
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what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing?
anyone know the differences in prices?
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http
be selling at IMO.
Niall
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what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing
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what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing?
anyone know
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From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 12:44
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Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down
what is MSEE lacking in?
sound of can of worms opening
Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down
what is MSEE lacking in?
sound of can of worms opening
Here's a start. MSSQLServer EE has ...
No bitmap indexes, no partitioned indexes, no function-based indexes, no
domain indexes, no reverse key indexes
what is the microsoft,. sybase, and ibm database pricing?
anyone know the differences in prices?
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never mind, 4 seconds after I sent the e-mail I saw the items listed on a
web page...
sigh.
Patrice.
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Oracle used to sell databases options as add-ons to Oracle EE.
I went to the Oracle Store web site,
That's a big sale, something like your friendly neighborhood
Dodge sale. You can get Oracle Ram, with world's most powerful
V8 engine and $3000 cashback with 0.7 APR. All bells and whistles
like the Spatial Option, Transparent Gateways and Advanced Networking
are included.
Mladen Gogala
Oracle
Patrice,
The listing I have 09-06-2002, has separate prices for the options you
listed. Prices are for named users license and Processor license.
There might be a newer price list out but I haven't found it yet. The
prices I show are
EE 800/40,000
Spatial 200/10,000
Advanced Security 200/10,000
Title: RE: Oracle pricing...
Guys,
Thanks for the insight!
rgds
amar
http://amzone.netfirms.com
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Amar,
All human users and non-human operated devices that are accessing the program
Check out the software investment guide :
http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/index.html?sig.html
In particular, I like the 400-employees-on-30-forklifts example (pg. 15 of the
guide). I would
Not only applies for web based applications, but also for TP monitoring
applications like CICS, Tuxedo, etc. Some clients actually priced the
number of concurrent connections via these TP monitors versus the 10,000 or
so users that use them. Ouch!
Thank You
Stephen P. Karniotis
Product
I believe they are only selling 9i now and you opt to use 8i from what I am
seeing.
What sucks is my 550MHzx4 Xeon NT development license went from $90,000 to
$160,000 with this new cheaper license scheme. Yeah bs.
Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when
: RE: Oracle pricing
Someone mentioned a site licence in their post. I did not know
Oracle do site licences, a sales rep told me they didn't.
...
Sean :)
Rookie Data Base Administrator
Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K
[0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA
[0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA
Someone mentioned a site licence in their post. I did not know Oracle do
site licences, a sales rep told me they didn't. Is this still the case?.
My experience of local area sales folk is that they don't seem to be too
concerned about business. They are so slllooo at responding to RFIs
I am the one who mentioned a site license. They really have to screw you
over good to get that. When you have two equally big corporations going
after you because of something done to screw you over and its extremely
provable
its amazing how they will bend. Like I said before, we have it
Title: Oracle pricing
Yes I
have. On the last set of quotes I got from Orance the price ranged from $175,000
to $70,000 for the same set of products. It just depended onwho I spoke
with. I also think timing has something to do with it. Salesmen meeting quotas
and the company reporting
Title: Message
That
is a good thing :)
Now
just get a third quote :)
"Walking on water and developing software from a
specification are easy if both are frozen."
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot
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They learned about the auditing of licenses from M$.
Dave
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Lisa,
I've not experienced that particular behavior from the Oracle sales
droids.
But, we did have ours in yesterday (new
And that 3rd quote must be from their authorised reseller, if any in your
area, and let them fight to lower their quote. As it is slowing market, one
must take advantage of it. In my past experience, I was putting all hardware
vendors to compete including manufacturers and going for best
DITTO THAT! When I was interviewing for this new gig I referred the future
boss to a reseller because I knew they were in the market for a new license.
It saved them significant bucks so I responded, See! I haven't even started
working for you and I've already saved you some big bucks... just
Excellent..
MOHAMMAD RAFIQ
DITTO THAT! When I was interviewing for this new gig I referred the future
boss to a reseller because I knew they were in the market for a new license.
It saved them significant bucks so I responded, See! I haven't even started
working for you and I've already
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