Because I'm picky. I ruled out OracleTool because it's web-based. While it
may be an advantage at times (don't need to install on every machine I use),
it's a whole number of layers I don't want to troubleshoot when in Crisis
Mode.
OraC is pretty cool. I looked at it when I got O'Reilly's
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Because I'm picky. I ruled out OracleTool because it's web-based. While
it
may be an advantage at times (don't need to install on every machine I
use),
it's a whole number
Title: unix time conversion function
I think its like almost any subjective
idea: its beautiful if you love it, heinous if you hate it.
I love Perl; it does what I mean. The only
thing I really dont like about Perl 5 is its yucky way of supporting complex
data structures. Im eager to
I've managed to successfully avoid learning Perl for a while now... my
reaction, while not quite so dramatic as yours, was that it made my
head hurt to try to understand it! :)
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unix time conversion functionCary I once thought I wanted to do
some
Personally... I think that if I had the same teacher to help me through Perl
that REALLY taught me what C was doing in memory and got me to REALLY
understand the power and elegance of pointers, I would code more in Perl. I
can, and occasionally do, code in Perl, but nothing fancy or real
Title: RE: Perl - Was Unix time conversion function
I used to be, but I finally bit the bullet ... I ordered my copy of Jared's book from Amazon.com yesterday !!
Raj
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Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot
Perl is great for getting the job done fast. It's harder to
write a large maintainable system in perl than other languages
but you use the right tool for the job. And, IMO, if you are ever
writing fancy or real creative code rewrite it. K.I.S.S.
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, April Wells wrote:
The only problem I had was differentiating between the actual code and the
encrypted version of the same ;) But we will get there eventually.
Denny
Quoting Robert Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
unix time conversion functionCary I once thought I wanted to do
some
Perl coding... So I
Perl kind of makes sense but I haven't reached the point where it clicks and
becomes natural. I still need to think about it very hard when I'm writing
it. Hence, a lot of the time I fall back on shell scripts supplemented by
pre-written (some would say shamelessly ripped off) perl code for the
Title: unix time conversion function
Now
that's what I call a "Perl Breakdown!!"...A nervous breakdown brought on
by pathological eclecticism. The cure for this is a healthy dose of Python. It
is truly refreshing!!
Steve
Orr
Oracle
DBA and part-time Python Evangelist.
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In my mind there is nothing obvious about Perl,
Anyone else feel that way about Perl or am I a
lone wolf in a Perl world?
I think the correct progression is to start with ksh; then mix in sed, awk,
For me, it was either Perl or an icky bass-ackward pipe-laden awk/sed/regex
unmaintainable bastion. OK, I couldn't get rid of the regex. While I'll
not be entering the Obfuscated Perl contest anytime soon, I think Perl is
much easier to understand for a traditional programmer (Assembly, BASIC,
please don't take umbridge, but I feel enticed to quote
what you don't know, dosn't (really) matter
Larry Wall, programming with perl, O'Reilly.
just for a giggle.
sorry
apologies for any typos overlooked
kr mr
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I've managed to successfully avoid
I've started writing some perl and it is hard to learn, but once you learn,
it can do some great things. And if you learned it from the Larry Wall book
like I did, then it's even harder.
The thing I've discovered about perl it that it may be the only language
(computer or otherwise) that is
My impression of Programming Perl was that it was primarily intended as an
ego trip for the author. I found Learning Perl 2nd Ed. and Perl Core
Language / Little Black Book to be much more useful. Yes, I have the Perl
for Oracle DBA's too, but haven't had the time to get into it yet.
What's the title of Jared's book?
-Scott
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I used to be, but I finally bit
the bullet ... I ordered my copy of Jared's book from Amazon.com
yesterday !!
Raj
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For me, it was either Perl or an icky bass-ackward pipe-laden
awk/sed/regex
unmaintainable bastion. OK, I couldn't get rid
Robert,
Perl isn't really that hard.
As with any language, it can be difficult to grasp at first, but once
you begin to understand it, it can be extremely powerful.
Regarding Cary's comments about the difficulty of complex Perl
data structures, I would have to say that they aren't any more
Title: RE: Perl - Was unix time conversion function
If you can do it in Perl chances are you can do it better in Python and someone can actually read and understand it without a PHD... AKA Perl Helper Dweeb. :-) In Perl it takes effort to write readable code but it comes naturally in Python
Title: RE: Perl - Was unix time conversion function
I
haven't done anything with Python but my problem with Python or Ruby is
that
they
don't come with many OS variants. Perl comes with any OS and there is
a
huge
repository of ready made scripts. I have to confess stealing some from
I'll add a clarification. With its object interface, Perl actually lets
one define much more easily accessible data structures than one can in
C. The problem with that is that the extra code path consumed by the
accessor methods is too slow to actually *use* them in some of our code
(think tens of
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I'll bet Stephen has a toolbox in his garage that contains
a single flat blade screwdriver and no phillips screwdrivers nor any
wrenches. ;)
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Don't need tools. Got pshycokinesis (got milk too). Been taking lessons
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For me
You can always outsource your perl development to me. :)
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) wrote:
Perl kind of makes sense but I haven't reached the point where it clicks and
becomes natural. I still need to think about it very hard when I'm writing
it. Hence, a lot of the time I
Title: RE: Perl - Was unix time conversion function
Are you sure? It's written in C and is supposed to be relatively portable. I've not tried it on other platforms but, in addition to HP-UX and AIX, Python runs on: AS/400; Solaris; OS/2; Amiga; AROS; BeOS; PalmOS; QNX; VMS; VxWorks; Sony
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:59:46AM -0800, Orr, Steve wrote:
If you can do it in Perl chances are you can do it better in Python and
someone can actually read and understand it without a PHD... AKA Perl Helper
Dweeb. :-) In Perl it takes effort to write readable code but it comes
naturally in
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 17:49, Tim Bunce wrote:
If you can do it in Perl chances are someone already has...
Check it out:
http://search.cpan.org
Just search for something...
I think you'll find that the same is very rapidly becoming as true for
Python.
I'm not trying to get into
Ok Jared, I'm going to buy your book and give it ONE MORE TRY.
I shall report my progress here.
RF
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Robert,
Perl isn't really that hard.
As with any language, it can
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