well... (platitude insertion:) the good thing about pondering
the dark side of the force every once of while is that it
makes everything else look brighter. :)
On 6 Feb 2001, at 7:01, Mohan, Ross scribbled with alacrity and cogency:
PC Answer: How awful. This denigrates blah blah blah and
.
Rachel
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I have had that same issue in the past but I don't have it here. I find
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I have taken the stance with one junior that he now
has to prove me wrong in anything I tell him. Loser buys
the beer. He owes me quite a bit
Rocky,
She lost the bet and got a raise - go figure !
well done lisa , we still wish you were back in Eden Prairie !
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On 5 Feb 2001, at 12:12, Rocky Welch wrote:
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Lisa,
A sweatshop?! Now that sounds a bit harsh. .; )
And just yesterday, both Larry and Jeff
complimented me on something nice
some developers said about me.
Last Friday they reorged a bit and now
Leo is Larry's boss. So basically Development
and our group is under the same umbrella.
Oops, I hate it when I do that. That was supposed to
go straight to Lisa. Everyone else can just scratch
their head and wonder.
Cherie
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Lisa,
Rather
than talking to the CTO about this go to the Dir, VP, or whatever of the USERS
of the system. In-fact he/she is the actual OWNER of the data in the
system. Explain to him/her how dangerous and devious the developers are to
the data.
Title: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT
I have
had that same issue in the past but I don't have it here. I find
that
as
long as you have your managements support and the development
team
knows
that then life will be much easier. I am very lucky here in that
I
have
good management
Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECTlisa, feel sorry for you, but it's some
of what we discuss the other day about if a developer should tell dba about
creating tables and so.
i think that here, we respect the others based only on technical skills, and
that's the way it should be at work,
and
Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECTcome on! give me an user who prefer we,
developers and dbas working in a decent way, instead of
get its job done "rigth now in this moment" and I'll shave my head and paint
it blue.
developers get crazy trying to solve a problem with users on the other side
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Gabriel, I agree. In the past it hasn't been us vs. them. It just has gotten worse in the last few months. Why can't we just all get along? Sure, it's quiet when I don't insist upon proper procedures.
I DID change the passwords, this morning
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Gabriel, I agree. In the past it hasn't been us vs. them. It just has gotten wor
Sounds like a new white paper titled, "How To Be Fired as a DBA." :-)
Best of luck... however you're interpreting that. ;-)
Steve Orr
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Lisa,
What?!! Are you
On 2 Feb 2001, at 8:18, Koivu, Lisa wrote:
... Fire me then.
Are you *sure* it's not because you are a viking fan? :)
ep
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Lisa,
Yes. Don't keep us in suspense. Let us know
how the bet turned out.
Cherie
p.s. If you lose, that's $50 down the drain
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But, but... you da man, Lisa.
I just button down everything. The only people in the universe that know the
db passwords are me and my 11-year-old daughter, because my company is too
damn cheap to hire a backup for me. I told my daughter that if I die, log in
and delete every database in sight.
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