RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-06 Thread Eric D. Pierce
well... (platitude insertion:) the good thing about pondering the dark side of the force every once of while is that it makes everything else look brighter. :) On 6 Feb 2001, at 7:01, Mohan, Ross scribbled with alacrity and cogency: PC Answer: How awful. This denigrates blah blah blah and

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-05 Thread Kimberly Smith
. Rachel From: Kimberly Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 08:11:03 -0800 I have had that same issue in the past but I don't have it here. I find

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-05 Thread Stephen Andert
PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 08:55:48 -0800 I have taken the stance with one junior that he now has to prove me wrong in anything I tell him. Loser buys the beer. He owes me quite a bit

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-05 Thread Brian_McQuillan
Rocky, She lost the bet and got a raise - go figure ! well done lisa , we still wish you were back in Eden Prairie ! Q Rocky Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/05/2001 03:45:33 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc:

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-05 Thread Eric D. Pierce
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/12701.html - http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/16057.html (Prostitutes used to tempt IT staff into jobs) On 5 Feb 2001, at 12:12, Rocky Welch wrote: Date sent: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:12:17 -0800 To: Multiple

Re: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Cherie_Machler
Lisa, A sweatshop?! Now that sounds a bit harsh. .; ) And just yesterday, both Larry and Jeff complimented me on something nice some developers said about me. Last Friday they reorged a bit and now Leo is Larry's boss. So basically Development and our group is under the same umbrella.

Re: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Cherie_Machler
Oops, I hate it when I do that. That was supposed to go straight to Lisa. Everyone else can just scratch their head and wonder. Cherie -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX:

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Holman, Rodney
Title: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT Lisa, Rather than talking to the CTO about this go to the Dir, VP, or whatever of the USERS of the system. In-fact he/she is the actual OWNER of the data in the system. Explain to him/her how dangerous and devious the developers are to the data.

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Kimberly Smith
Title: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT I have had that same issue in the past but I don't have it here. I find that as long as you have your managements support and the development team knows that then life will be much easier. I am very lucky here in that I have good management

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Gabriel Galanternik
Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECTlisa, feel sorry for you, but it's some of what we discuss the other day about if a developer should tell dba about creating tables and so. i think that here, we respect the others based only on technical skills, and that's the way it should be at work, and

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Gabriel Galanternik
Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECTcome on! give me an user who prefer we, developers and dbas working in a decent way, instead of get its job done "rigth now in this moment" and I'll shave my head and paint it blue. developers get crazy trying to solve a problem with users on the other side

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT Gabriel, I agree. In the past it hasn't been us vs. them. It just has gotten worse in the last few months. Why can't we just all get along? Sure, it's quiet when I don't insist upon proper procedures. I DID change the passwords, this morning

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Cherie_Machler
g: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Title: RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT Gabriel, I agree. In the past it hasn't been us vs. them. It just has gotten wor

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Steve Orr
Sounds like a new white paper titled, "How To Be Fired as a DBA." :-) Best of luck... however you're interpreting that. ;-) Steve Orr -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Lisa, What?!! Are you

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Eric D. Pierce
On 2 Feb 2001, at 8:18, Koivu, Lisa wrote: ... Fire me then. Are you *sure* it's not because you are a viking fan? :) ep -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Cherie_Machler
Lisa, Yes. Don't keep us in suspense. Let us know how the bet turned out. Cherie p.s. If you lose, that's $50 down the drain "Steve Orr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/02/2001 03:36:12 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:

RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT

2001-02-02 Thread Weaver, Walt
But, but... you da man, Lisa. I just button down everything. The only people in the universe that know the db passwords are me and my 11-year-old daughter, because my company is too damn cheap to hire a backup for me. I told my daughter that if I die, log in and delete every database in sight.