Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Title: RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe Hi! Of course you have to plan your servers' capacity accordingly, that in the event of node failure, the other node will not get too loaded. When one node crashes, the second one has to deal with queries and transactions of both servers and we must

RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-19 Thread Hussain Ahmed Qadri
Title: RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe Hi Rajesh, Thanks for the detailed reply and I really appreciate that. Certain clarifications. 1. With reference to what you said about using both the nodes, you meant that we can install another database (lets say for reporting purpose) or/and also

RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-19 Thread RAJESH DAYAL
Title: RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe Hi Hussain, Replies are inline . With reference to what you said about using both the nodes, you meant that we can install another database (lets say for reporting purpose) or/and also 9iAS on one node and our main production database

RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-17 Thread Hussain Ahmed Qadri
Thank you to all those who replied and who intend to reply to this one :) We are using Dell PE4600 servers. My concern was that I read it somewhere that if one of the node goes down, then the clients have to restart the application to log in again to the database, is that true? And is it any

RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-17 Thread RAJESH DAYAL
Title: RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe Hi Hussain ! RAC can have Active-Active or Active-Passive combination for two nodes. While OFS can't give you Active-Active combination of two nodes. Basically a resource sharing is not possible in Oracle Fail safe so one resource can be used by only one

RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-17 Thread RAJESH DAYAL
Title: RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe Answers in line... -- I also believe that setting up RAC is more complex, That's not totally true, For a DBA it shouldn't matter much, whether he is setting up RAC or OFS. But yes relatively RAC is a bit complex to manage. -- and any change in node

RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-17 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
One other note is that we have not had to failover due to a Win2K of Oracle problem in 18 months of running failsafe. We have found it to be extremely stable just not scalable froma CPU standpoint. I totally agree with this. I am running FailSafe here also. The *only* failover's I experience is

Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-16 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! RAC - One database, two (or more) instances servicing it concurrently. If one node crashes, second one starts recovering, your uncommitted transactions and session state variables (package variables) on failed instance are lost. FailSafe - One database, one instance servicing it at any time,

RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-16 Thread Tony Johnson
FailSafe comes with EE and works very well. It might even come with SE but I am not sure. Our production environment fails over in less than 2 minutes. It is much simpler to set up ( ie no SAN, raw devices or OCFS) and a heck of a lotr cheaper ( 20K$ / CPU for RAC ). One other note is that we

Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-16 Thread Allen R. Lucas
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Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-16 Thread Jared . Still
PROTECTED] 07/16/2003 10:59 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe EE is not required to FailSafe. It comes at no cost with Standard Edition as well