RE: RE: RE: Siebel.

2001-11-30 Thread Linda . Miller-Coker
You'd almost have to be God to fix it.it consists of 1000s of tables. It took me 2 weeks to reverse into Designer. My customer is not welling to pay for the time to fix the design. "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@fatcity.com on 11/29/2001 04:17:58 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: RE: RE: Siebel.

2001-11-29 Thread Mohan, Ross
Dick, question for yaif you "owned" Siebel, lock, stock and barrel, what would you do? 1) Fix and switch ALL RI to the database ( oracle and ms and ibm and others) 2) Just fix it where it is broken, but leave it in the app itself 3) leave it out but publish a tech spec document telling user

RE: RE: Siebel.

2001-11-29 Thread Henry Poras
Dennis, Maybe I'm naive, or I'm giving too much credit to those making the purchase, but I feel that for applications the size and cost of most ERPs you could market them using features such as stability and data integrity along with the bells and whistles. A cleaner schema would also make it eas

RE: RE: Siebel.

2001-11-29 Thread Weaver, Walt
Damn. I've been wracking my brain all day trying to figure out how to say this. Thanks, Dennis. --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Henry - The issue isn't the major RDBMS vendors, altho

RE: RE: Siebel.

2001-11-29 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Henry - The issue isn't the major RDBMS vendors, although there can be interesting variations among them when it comes to how RI is implemented. Most successful ERP packages have been around for a number of years, so they have had to be available on many platforms. On some of those platforms the p

RE: RE: Siebel.

2001-11-29 Thread Mark Leith
Another good one is when they change the application from flat files to an RDBMS.. And then continue to forget all about relational database theory.. Love it!! -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 November 2001 14:50 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Henry, I am so

RE: RE: Siebel.

2001-11-29 Thread Henry Poras
Just curious, but which of the major RDBMSs don't have RI? Henry -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Another factor is that when RI was first introduced, people tended to overuse it and then performance was bad. I don't

RE: RE: Siebel.

2001-11-29 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Another factor is that when RI was first introduced, people tended to overuse it and then performance was bad. I don't think this is such a problem today, but I think many ERP packages were either developed before RI was common to all SQL databases, or were discouraged by the initial problems. But