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2003-02-28 Thread Niall Litchfield
Whilst not disagreeing with the practical outworkings of what you, and others, have been saying for a while now I think that I disagree with the statement that tuning, or indeed database management more generally is 'science'. I think that the correct term is 'engineering'. In case this is just

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2003-02-28 Thread Jonathan Lewis
I like this - it nearly fits in, give or take a little flexibility in interpretation, with my comments: Tuning (engineering) is what you do before the system goes live Trouble-shooting (science) is what you do after the system goes live Regards Jonathan Lewis

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2003-02-28 Thread Spears, Brian
Here' my fave... 1) DBA's are to create simple easy to follow with ample documentation.. with infrastructure work. In the long run it serves the company well as well as your fellow dba's trying to support your work at 3:00am. 2) The work should be developed with a corporate perspective as

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2003-02-26 Thread Stephane Faroult
With the advent of quantum microbiology and the like, most informed people agree that 21st medicine is a science. However, medicine as practiced in the 17th century was definitely an art, not a science. The argument that tuning is an art--that it is subjective like a symphony or like cooking--is

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2003-02-25 Thread Cary Millsap
The only thing wrong with President Wilson's advice is that exceptional oratory skill can, in the short term, overcome some pretty horrendous content deficiencies. I do have faith enough in free people to believe that in the long term, the truth wins. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.

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2003-02-25 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
And to the credit of Woodrow Wilson - The wisest thing to do with a fool is to encourage him to hire a hall and discourse to his fellow citizens. Nothing chills nonsense like exposure to air. Interesting quote. It's funny, I do present with some frequency, and I stress out about it every time

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2003-02-25 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Yes, but WHO's truth. Truth is a three sided sword, your side, my side and The edge.. Truth is, unfortunately, subjective Point in case, politics. :-) RF Robert G. Freeman Technical Management Consultant TUSC - The Oracle Experts www.tusc.com 904.708.5076 Cell (It's everywhere

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2003-02-25 Thread Cary Millsap
Facts can have different truths only when those facts are filtered through the lenses of contradictory value judgments. Politics is an *excellent* example: lots of people describe themselves as believing in equality. However, one political sector believes that equality means equality of

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2003-02-25 Thread Connor McDonald
Connor does a much better job of presenting than I do. Translation: Connor waves his arms about, swears more and uses a little more BS, gives beer to attendees --- Freeman Robert - IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And to the credit of Woodrow Wilson - The wisest thing to do with a fool is to

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2003-02-24 Thread Jesse, Rich
I'm curious as to an explanation on don't #1 (what constitutes reorganization?) and what is ASSM for don't #5? Assembly??? Rich Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent:

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2003-02-24 Thread Mark Leith
Automatic Segment Space Management -Original Message- Sent: 24 February 2003 15:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L comm I'm curious as to an explanation on don't #1 (what constitutes reorganization?) and what is ASSM for don't #5? Assembly??? Rich Rich Jesse

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2003-02-24 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
A... but in my world view, DBA's need to THINK like developers, since we are always the ones who the real SQL tuning gets pushed down to. Also, DBA's often are called on to design the database, and when views are brought to them to create they need to ask themselves, is this really a good

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2003-02-24 Thread Jesse, Rich
E! That icky LMT option? Ick! Ick! Ick! Thx! Rich Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list

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2003-02-24 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Care to share why...? Robert G. Freeman Technical Management Consultant TUSC - The Oracle Experts www.tusc.com 904.708.5076 Cell (It's everywhere that I am!) Author of several books you can find on Amazon.com! -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 6:29 AM To: Multiple

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2003-02-24 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
* SHOCK * You mean someone disagrees with *ME* Horrors the world is soon to come to an end!! :-)) RF Robert G. Freeman Technical Management Consultant TUSC - The Oracle Experts www.tusc.com 904.708.5076 Cell (It's everywhere that I am!) Author of several books you can find on