RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan NetApp is in another class of devices labeled NAS for Network Attached Storage. Because its connection with your server runs over a network connection, the performance is very much dependent on the speed and configuration of the network connection. As has been explained to me, and I

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Zito
: 212-358-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: max parallel query Ryan NetApp

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Goulet, Dick
://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: max parallel query Ryan NetApp is in another class

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2003-09-19 Thread Ron Thomas
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RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
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RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Zito
-220-3551 Phone: 212-358-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goulet, Dick Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: max parallel query Matt

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Tanel Poder
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goulet, Dick Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: max parallel query Matt, Question: What else do you have running on your

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Johnston, Tim
Hrrrmmthe on-topic-ness of this has strayed far from Oracle. My apologies. Not sure I agree with the last statement... I think it is on topic... Many of us DBA types are often involved in these kinds of discussions internally and the more informed we are the better off we are... It

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread rgaffuri
i know there are no magic formulas, but im hoping for something better than trial and error. i would assume that parallel query helps most when: 1. are doing work off of multiple mount points. 2. Have alot more LIOs to perform than PIOs(such as sorts). am i close on this? From: M Rafiq

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
If you want rules of thumb, then take CPU_COUNT+1 up to CPU_COUNT *2. I think LIO PIO ratio is irrelevant, the most important is whether you are able to construct optimal parallel execution plan, e.g. avoid excessive parallel slave messaging waiting. This is mostly design and SQL issue. The

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Ryan
hmmm... when i run statspack during a big load. most of my waits are from redo log waits and read from a staging datafile. we have all of our datafiles on the same I/O mount. We are using a Network Appliance back end with asynch I/O. are you telling me that putting these files on seperate mount

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan You are probably bottlenecking on the NetApp. Probably your network link to it. If you have some regular (a.k.a. direct attached) disk available, consider using it for your redo logs. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
If different mount point means different disk spindle group or different disk array, then of course, your performance will be improved, but if we talk about the same box, same number of disks just split to two or three, you probably won't get any performance increase. One disk spindle still

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Ryan
i dont manage the netapp and am not a hardware person. could you explain a little better? Is netapp similiar to SAN? what is asynch I/O? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:24 PM Ryan You are probably

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
Netapp is NAS afaik, that means a bunch of disks used over fast network. SAN is a bunch of disks used over SCSI or Fibre interface (EMC Clariion for example). I tend to trust and appreciate SAN more than NAS, but NAS can be more cost effective in small-to medium environments. What I meant, is