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P.S. I can work powerpoint too.
Close your Powerpoint.exe and S L O W L Y back away from the keyboard and nobody gets
hurt ...
Raj
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at
I didn't mean to scold... you post way more information than I usually
do!
And I answer whilst eating breakfast at times too :)
Richard *is* right, the problem is, the sql statement is misformed but
the answer key says it will work. Which is yet another reason I dislike
the OCP exams.
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A small but growing number of employers want certification. Considering the
job market, I recommend anyone who is not at Rachel's, etc.. level to get
certified as both a developer and a DBA. I'm doing Java also, just to have
it. The java test is a total joke. You only need to get 52% right and its
Title: RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys
Uh No one can be at Rachel's level. She's the DBA Goddess
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From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Re[2
Michael Abbey once said (I'm paraphrasing here) the resume and OCP get
you in the door. It's your experience that gets you the job and keeps
you there
We've had numerous discussions on this list about interview questions.
I've been on interviews where I spent an entire day (9-4) and talked to
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Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
Oh yeah -- how does having a college degree in art history make a
person a better DBA? how does my degree, which is in computer science
but which is 28 years old, have anything to do with current
programming and database work?
it
degrees and ocps often do alot more than get you past the HR department.
most jobs these days are short term temp jobs. temp companies offer you
salary based mainly on your resume.
most technical interviews are a joke. I can make more money if I double my
experience level and have a computer
On 01/07/2004 10:19:25 AM, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
Oh yeah -- how does having a college degree in art history make a
person a better DBA? how does my degree, which is in computer science
but which is 28 years old, have anything to do with current programming
and database work?
Believe it
I do understand, and that's why I said that I tried to bring people in
first, before HR (as you know)
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Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
Oh yeah -- how does having a college degree in art history make a
person a better
Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
I do understand, and that's why I said that I tried to bring people in
first, before HR (as you know)
yup, but most places don't have a Goddess on staff.;-) and i'm seeing the
requirement for OCP being listed in consulting postings
Now I understand their use, I shall immediately go out and hire an art
history major as the deparmental sacrifical lamb (and dartboard while
we are at it)
I'm still a hands-on DBA, although I have some paperwork
responsibilities as well. Not management, other than my own work :)
Rachel
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Title: RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys
brutal, absolutely brutal...
Rachel, can ya out-source your sacrificial lamb for our use as well:-)
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From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:54 AM
To: Multiple
Rachel,
A few years ago I was offered a job by a defense contractor in the area who
was looking for a DBA, but more importantly a DBA with a still active clearance. Well
all was well in 90% of that company, except HR. Simple answer, no degree no job. I
don't have the degree so they
what you lose in worth you gain in self-worth.
Henry
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Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
degrees and ocps often do alot more than get you past the HR department.
most jobs these days are short term temp jobs. temp
I know it makes no sense... but it has something to do with a (very)
antiquated class system and the difference between white-collar
workers and blue-collar workers and salary vs hourly wages
for the non-US, the term white collar worker refers to office staff,
who would wear a white shirt and tie
Rachel writes
Now I understand their use, I shall immediately go out and
hire an art history major as the deparmental sacrifical lamb
(and dartboard while we are at it)
Hey I have an *economics* degree, *and* am a part-qualified accountant. I
claim that sacrificial lamb position as my own.
you leave me such straight lines :)
which part is qualified as an accountant?
you volunteer to be the sacrificial lamb? Hm, masochist?
Before Jared tries to send everyone over to my list on this topic, I'll
try to bring it at least slightly back on topic. I really don't care
if someone has
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