RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-18 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Bambi, in earlier versions of unix, it would reply don't know how to make love like ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] uname -a dgux orion R4.20MU06 generic AViiON PentiumPro [EMAIL PROTECTED] make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. but now ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] uname -a AIX ariel 1 5

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-18 Thread Bellow, Bambi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uname -a dgux orion R4.20MU06 generic AViiON PentiumPro [EMAIL PROTECTED] make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. Raj -- That's fbulous! Thanks, Bambi. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-18 Thread Bellow, Bambi
There is no fun ... my favorite quotes used to be in Apple MPW compiler ... the one I like most is ... You can't modify a constant, float upstream, win an argument with the IRS, or satisfy this compiler Raj Raj -- I fear this will get off-topic'd pretty quickly, and, I further fear that you

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-18 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 11/18/2003 11:54:41 AM, Bellow, Bambi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] uname -a dgux orion R4.20MU06 generic AViiON PentiumPro [EMAIL PROTECTED] make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. Raj -- That's fbulous! Thanks, Bambi. -- Actually, it really is. It shows us

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-18 Thread Igor Neyman
Since making love is simpler, should they start with outsourcing it? -:) Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Mladen Gogala Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On 11/18/2003 11:54:41 AM, Bellow, Bambi wrote: [EMAIL

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Mladen, we must have started in the same era. You're describing the environment I started with, however, our disk was 10MB. So you remember SQL*Forms 1.3 (IAC/IAG/IAP) and HLI as well? Carel, I know that. That was my first oracle version. I installed V4 on an IBM PC/XT with WD 20MB hard drive

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
I do. I thought that IAD (graphic interface which came with 2.0 in version 5) was a solution to all problems. Version 4 was used for training purposes only. First real apps were developed with 5.0 and 5.1.22. On 11/17/2003 06:14:24 AM, Carel-Jan Engel wrote: Mladen, we must have started in the

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Do you know how SQL*Plus was called during Oracle V4? (And maybe earlier, but this is as far as my history with Oracle goes) They called it UFI, which means User Friendly Interface! And that dreaded afiedt.buf came was a copy of the Advanced User Friendly Interface Buffer (edt was

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Hope you don't mind the intrusion... I used HLI back in 5.0.20 days, and the big problem converting in 5.1.22 when everything had to go to IAPXIT. When were IAP|IAG replaced with IAD? I thought that came in around 1.3... was it later? Because by v2 it was SQL*Forms... Bambi. On 11/17/2003

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
IAD was the executable (on VMS) that the Sql*Forms command ran (D for Designer). IAG was to generate a form (G for Generate). IAP to execute it (P for something that I can't remember). This was SqlForms 3.0. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent:

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
P was Program... it was the Y/N program file. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L IAD was the executable (on VMS) that the Sql*Forms command ran (D for Designer). IAG was to generate a form (G for Generate). IAP to

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Thater, William
Bellow, Bambi scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Do you know how SQL*Plus was called during Oracle V4? (And maybe earlier, but this is as far as my history with Oracle goes) They called it UFI, which means User Friendly Interface! And that dreaded afiedt.buf came was a copy of

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
make love -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Bellow, Bambi scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Do you know how SQL*Plus was called during Oracle V4? (And maybe earlier, but this is as far as my history with Oracle

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
Well, not all hope is lost. Look at the following URL's: http://www.makalis.fr/~bertrand/FreeVMS/indexGB.html http://www.bosbc.com/ The second one is a commercial product, but certainly provides a familiar layer. On 11/17/2003 02:04:25 PM, Thater, William wrote: Bellow, Bambi scribbled on

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
We've purchased nuTPU from aSoft: http://www.asoft-dev.com/tpu_info.htm It's very good, although most of my low level EVE replacements don't work (e.g. off-screen cursor handling, custom comment handling, etc.). Development appears to be stopped as there have been no new patches or versions in a

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Thater, William
Bellow, Bambi scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: make love not war -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] The knack of

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
Bill, that's a wrong answer. The correct answer is make love, not children. On 11/17/2003 02:54:42 PM, Thater, William wrote: Bellow, Bambi scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: make love not war -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... --

RE: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Bellow, Bambi
No, sorry, that is the correct answer. The original question was Does anyone remember TECO? In TECO, if you entered the command make love, it would respond not war. Two points to Bill and thanks for the smile to both, Bambi. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:14 PM

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-17 Thread Tanel Poder
$ make lovemake: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop. - Original Message - From: "Bellow, Bambi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: var source_data var

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-16 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Hi Mladen, At 06:19 12-11-03 -0800, you wrote: SQL*Plus has a ghastly and disgusting user interface, implemented without readline or equivalent, which would give a command history. Littering the system with those @#$%! afiedt.buf files is bad enough but line editting commands are an indicator of

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
Carel, I know that. That was my first oracle version. I installed V4 on an IBM PC/XT with WD 20MB hard drive and two 5.25 floppy drives which could each hold 360k of information. Yes, you read it correctly. It was 20 MB hard drive, not 20 GB. OS was the unforgettable DOS 3.0 and the graphic card

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
I never use those. I find it better not to be overly smart with sqlplus. Sqlplus is a program for ad-hoc queries from the command line and for the administrative functions (startup/shutdown, alter database/system), nothing more and nothing less. If I need a program, I can either write a PL/SQL

Re: Re[2]: var source_data varchar2(12)

2003-11-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
I never use those. I find it better not to be overly smart with sqlplus. Sqlplus is a program for ad-hoc queries from the command line and for the administrative functions (startup/shutdown, alter database/system), nothing more and nothing less. If I need a program, I can either write a PL/SQL