Re: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-10 Thread Mark J. Bobak
Hi Igor, Glad you enjoyed Jonathan's talks! Next time, you'll have to join us at his seminar which followed AAOUG and wrapped up yesterday! I'm actually heading over to the hotel to pick him up and take hime to the airport in a few minutes. It was a really great three days. I think all 24 peop

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-08 Thread Hately, Mike (NESL-IT)
Hi Ron, you're quite right and I'm pointing out that this functionality (auto-extension of a file to accomodate a tempoary segment) works fine for me. That suggests that (bugs aside) temporary segments are quite capable of forcing a datafile to extend. The thrust of your earlier mail seemed to be

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-08 Thread Ron Rogers
Mike, In the previous discussion on this thread the problem was that the autoextent would not work for a temp segment created during the index creation and the problem was solved by extending the tablespace to handle the temp segments. Ron >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/02 09:18AM >>> Ron, I don't

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-08 Thread Fink, Dan
I just tried a cartesian product/sort and the TEMP tablespace, which is set up as temporary and using a tempfile was able to autoextend. Of course, the next step is to set up a TEMP tablespace as temporary using a datafile, then permanent and see what happens...volunteers? In regards to the issue

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-08 Thread Rachel Carmichael
as i said. maybe temp segments don't cause autoextend :) --- Ron Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's think about this for a minute. > You create and index called idx1 using a designated tablespace that > has > sufficient space to hold the complete index. > You create a new index idx2 on the

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-08 Thread Hately, Mike (NESL-IT)
Ron, I don't believe all of that to be true. In your example idx2 should be created and the tablespace should extend. Otherwise what would be the point of having AUTOEXTEND on any tablespace which held only indexes? I agree that Oracle will use a temporary segment to hold the index data until it i

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-08 Thread Ron Rogers
Let's think about this for a minute. You create and index called idx1 using a designated tablespace that has sufficient space to hold the complete index. You create a new index idx2 on the table using the same tablespace and you think that it should autoextend to hold the permanent index. The syst

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
maybe temp segments don't cause an autoextend? at least it's consistent --- "Fink, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update... I tried the same test with 8.1.7 on Solaris 8. Same > result... > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-07 Thread Fink, Dan
-Original Message-From: Igor Neyman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:34 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles Dan, That's exactly, what someone desc

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-07 Thread Fink, Dan
-Original Message-From: Igor Neyman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:34 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles Dan, That's exactly, what someone described yesterday, it was LMT

Re: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-07 Thread Igor Neyman
ECTED]      - Original Message - From: Fink, Dan To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:15 PM Subject: RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles Igor and Yechiel,     Thanks for the responses. I'm glad to hear that I am

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-07 Thread Fink, Dan
Adar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:35 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles Hi Paulo   When creating an index, or CTAS, oracle use temp segments while building and rename them afte

Re: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-07 Thread Yechiel Adar
: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:04 PM Subject: RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles never heard on this problem but are u sure table the temp tablespace of the user executing the commeand is temp and not user_indx

Re: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-07 Thread Igor Neyman
I've heard about the same problem yesterday (while attending Ann Arbor OUG conference), unfortunately - no solution, I think, they opened TAR.   BTW, it was very good conference, great presentations by Jonathan Lewis.   Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED]      - Original Message ---

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-07 Thread Paulo Gomes
never heard on this problem but are u sure table the temp tablespace of the user executing the commeand is temp and not user_indx??? regards Paulo -Original Message-From: Fink, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2002 15:39To: Multiple recipients

RE: Space management failures on autoextend datafiles

2002-11-07 Thread Hately, Mike (NESL-IT)
Dan, is your datafile approaching (or past) the maxsize setting? AUTOEXTEND functionality won't grow a file beyond this but I believe it's possible to manuallly resize the file beyond the MAXSIZE figure. That would explain the apparent anomaly. regards, Mike Hately -Original Message- Se