So we have to take two advanced Oracle courses...
I have a bad feeling that the Oracle Internals Seminars by Scott Gossett
don't count.
Would that be correct? They are not part of the OCP tracks.
Patrice.
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I've taken those for 8i. Scott is a great guy and the course is excellent.
In NYC there was a waiting list for his course.
On 12/17/2003 09:19:26 AM, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
So we have to take two advanced Oracle courses...
I have a bad feeling that the Oracle Internals Seminars by Scott
I ended up going to Bethesda from NYC to take the class with him
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I've taken those for 8i. Scott is a great guy and the course is
excellent.
In NYC there was a waiting list for his course.
On 12/17/2003 09:19:26 AM, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
So we
That's correct. I believe the reasoning is that the advanced courses
(listed below) that are included have to include hands on. The
Internals seminars are not hands on. As a couple of asides, Scott is
not the only instructor who runs those internals seminars, and I'm not
even sure if he's
Bethesda city center on Wisconsin Av.? Nice place with some rather fancy
restaurants around. I drove around Washington and Bethesda and I must say that
it is a beautiful area. I would like to live in Reston, VA. Did you know that
propery prices in Reston are comparable to those on LI?
On
high 300K to 0.5M for a townhouse and 500K to 1M for single house
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Bethesda city center on Wisconsin Av.? Nice place with some rather fancy
restaurants around. I drove around
This is OT...
3-bedroom Houses in Halifax, Canada sell for about CDN$130K now.
Patrice.
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high 300K to 0.5M for a townhouse and 500K to 1M for single house
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not optional).
if its more than that let me know...
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high 300K to 0.5M for a townhouse and 500K to 1M
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Hi Robert,
That's all very interesting.
The various press releases at the time (e.g.
http://www.dulcian.com/PRESS
of you that are, has it
helped you in getting work?
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Hi Robert,
That's all very interesting
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how scary would it be to arrive at the exam, and the
inquisitioner is dressed as Gandalf.
Right after he hands out the exam he slams his staff
Honi soit qui mal y pense
At 04:34 PM 12/13/2003, you wrote:
This is a family oriented mailing list folks. :)
Jared
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 15:19, Richard Foote wrote:
Hi Jeremiah,
I find the mental image of the six of you holding up your shafts for a
publicity shot profoundly disturbing...
This is a family oriented mailing list folks. :)
Jared
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 15:19, Richard Foote wrote:
Hi Jeremiah,
I find the mental image of the six of you holding up your shafts for a
publicity shot profoundly disturbing...
Cheers ;o)
Richard
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Apology accepted. We had to do a lot of hard work to get those
superman-style crystal shafts. Among the things we had to do the get
the shaft:
- Stand on a piece of masking tape on the stage
- Not make fun of the OCM program while we were getting the award
- Not make fun of any of the other
Hi Robert,
That's all very interesting.
The various press releases at the time (e.g.
http://www.dulcian.com/PRESS%20RELEASE_OCM.htm) all suggest that the 6 best
Oracle experts in the world were handed these prestigious awards. Even the
TUSC website only makes mention of these awards being handed
Jeremiah,
You really had to expose your self to get the shaft as you so
stated. I just have to show up at work.
Congratulation on receiving the certification and being recognized for
the knowledge you so willingly share.
Is there really a live after being a DBA? I prefer creating furniture
for
All this nonsense about who got what and did they deserve it. Only one
questions comes to mind.
Are we all in High School or something? Did I miss the throwback in time?
sheesh.
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
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how many people are actually OCMs? and those of you that are, has it helped you in
getting work?
From: Richard Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Robert
LOL perhaps I was wrong then... I could have sworn you all had to go
through a beta trial of the program, but maybe I've got some false memory
stuck in my head, wouldn't be the first time. I stand corrected.
Cheers!
Robert
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Hi Robert,
That's all very interesting.
The various press releases at the time (e.g.
http://www.dulcian.com/PRESS
Hi Jeremiah,
I find the mental image of the six of you holding up your shafts for a
publicity shot profoundly disturbing...
Cheers ;o)
Richard
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Apology accepted. We
Woo Hooo!!
NOT ME!!
I'm a certified oracle bastard!
lol
Brad O.
okay...I'm done...
(back into my cage)
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I know only of Pete Sharman. Who are other Oracle Certified Masters on
this
IIRC, Tanel did the OCM as well, but I suspect most of the others on
your list aren't prepared to waste their time attending OCP exams and
courses just so they can get the OCM. :)
There were some honorary OCM's announced when the program first started
(OOW2002?). From memory, Rich Niemic and
Yup, I managed to pass it in december 2002 and I'd say it has been quite useful for an
unknown consultant from nowhere like me.
But I agree with you, other guys mentioned here don't need any certificate to prove
their mastership. They are way over any current or future certification anyway...
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I'm not an OCM.
In order to pass, I am lacking a few vital pieces (in increasing severity)
a) $$
b) time
c) knowledge
My knowledge and interest is rather limited to tuning and the CBO.
I believe Tanel is, according to credentials listed on the slides of
you mean niemic didnt actually have to take the test? It was just handed to
him? who is jeremiah wilton?
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IIRC, Tanel did the OCM as well, but I suspect most of the
No, no, no! Definitely not me. I'm 99.999% certain not Mogens or Anjo
either. I don't think Steve either (80% sure). Not sure about the
others.
Thank you for the sentiment, though!
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Pete,
Scott Nelson, Paul Dorsey, Peter Koletzke, and David Ensor were also part of the
original 6-pack I believe, and it was announced in the fall of 2001. Maggie
Respectfully,
Maggie Tompkins - CAD SQA
Corporate Applications Division
Technology Services Organization - Kansas City
Oh, and I forgot. No, the honorary OCM's didn't have to take the test.
They were given the OCM in recognition of their contributions to the
Oracle world as a whole. Actually, some of them I'd never heard of
before either, so that probably explains why I can't recall who they are
now.
Pete
As I recall Rich talking about it, he did indeed take the exam. It was not
just handed to him.
Robert
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you mean niemic didnt actually have to take the test? It was just handed
to
him? who is jeremiah
Well, I could say Haven't you heard the song? Jeremiah was a bullfrog,
was a good friend of mine ..., but that would really date me. :)
Last I heard, Jeremiah was at Amazon. He occasionally posts answers on
oracle-l, so no doubt he'll correct me if:
a) I have his name wrong
b) I has his
I owe an apology whether I'm correct or not, because (1) I didn't really
*know* the answer (only what I've heard), and (2) it's really none of my
business anyway. So... even if my speculation were correct, all I've
done here is to propagate a rumor, which is what I'm trying to live my
professional
Ryan wrote:
you mean niemic didnt actually have to take the test?
Scary, eh ?
(couldn't resist)
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