RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE

2003-07-18 Thread Hemant K Chitale
My guess is that a binary SPFILE is expected to look the same whether it is a Raw Device [non-CFS RAC] or on a File System [CFS RAC or Single Instance database]. You should be able to do a dd of the SPFILE to move it between Raw and FileSystems. Thus you can take the SPFILE of a non-CFS RAC and

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE

2003-07-18 Thread Gogala, Mladen
SPFILE is instance specific, modified by alter system, not by alter database. That means that RAC doesn't affect it. You can try with raw device for the pfile, if you can do something like vi /dev/rdsk/c0d1s2 (I hate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emacs). If you can, please let me know which system allows

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE

2003-07-18 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE Our spfile is shared by all instances in the RAC ... Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE

2003-07-18 Thread Molina, Gerardo
:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE Our spfile is shared by all instances in the RAC ... Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE

2003-07-18 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -Original Message-From: Molina, Gerardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:15 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE one spfile

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?)

2003-07-17 Thread Turner, Adrian A SITI-ITPSIE
Roy, I imagine its so that it can only be changed by someone who is validated against the database with the correct permissions. Kind Regards, Adrian -Original Message- Sent: 16 July 2003 23:40 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L sync with INIT.ORA ?) I can definitely appreciate

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael
it's a fake sort of binary -- try editing it with vi and then try opening your database with the spfile... but first make an init.ora copy of it. There is some sort of checksum going on, even though it looks like ASCII --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it isn't binary on solaris

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2003-07-17 Thread Stephen Lee
I wonder if it is something built into the file or something that vi (or whatever editor you are using) does to the file when you save it. I say that because, if you edit the text part of an export file with vi, you get an unusable file. But the text part of an export file can be edited by

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2003-07-17 Thread Thomas Day
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RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-17 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in Hey, don't blame oracle for that ... did you complain to Microsoft when they created that Registry hive cr*p ?? Oracle is stepping on the same line ... Lemmings ... g Raj

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-17 Thread Richard Ji
That's a good point. Someone should try a binary editor instead, like bvi and see what happens. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L in I wonder if it is something built into the file or something that vi (or whatever

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-17 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in Questin is why do you want to mess with it? That's not exactly my idea of fun ... I'd still use alter system, alter database commands to change whatever. Raj

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-17 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Why would you want to do that? You can always re-create the file from your PFILE. Oracle should have encrypted it. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L in

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-17 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Editing spfile is not supported by Oracle. And I think it is documented as such. You can just view it, copy it and play with the copied version what whatever... One thing to remeber is to always hold on to the init.ora version. No matter what. Or at least until Oracle completely removes

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-17 Thread Richard Ji
Title: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in Of course you are right that no one should use it as the right way to change parameters. I will admit playing with binary file some times is my idea of fun. Hey, you never know, you might learn something from

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-16 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?) it isn't binary on solaris ... pure text ... Raj -Original Message- From: Pardee, Roy E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-16 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?) Not true; it's binary, on both Solaris 8 and 9. By the most of the file (regardless of the OS) is still text; the non-ascii chars are present at the beginning of the file. Arup Nanda

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-16 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Keeping them binary gives them power I guses... On most platforms there is just a hashed value on the first line. In 9i R1 (9.0.1), I was able to replace some param value without changing number of chars on the line, and the changes were taken without any problem (HP-UX 11, it was I think).