RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Goulet, Dick
For anyone interested. I took one of those old scripts, modified it into a data warehouse sort of implementation then publish it every day at month end as an internal web page. There's a copy of today's output at http://vdac2.vicr.com/space_new.html if your interested. Dick Goulet Senior

Re: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
Jared, David, Listers, Another very useful method that I have used in the past is the Ratio Modeling Technique. It is a low-precision method, but it is better than no-precision. Craig Shallahamer et al., wrote a paper on it within the Oracle context. I am sure there are many more out there, but I

Re: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Jared . Still
In a nutshell: Collect stats from dbms_free_space once a week, save them in a table. Once a month, load the stats into another database for calculation. Run them through a Perl filter to create a summary table by tablespace. Use Oracle's Linear Regression functions to make a prediction of

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Jesse, Rich
blush Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it! The very same! And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked. sigh When you don't update those old scripts with newer versions of Oracle they really look old and convoluted. Rich Rich Jesse

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Goulet, Dick
Hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And if that were not true I sure could not explain some of my friends wives. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Jared Still
Took it a few years ago. Highly recommended. Capacity planning is about a lot more than disk space, which is probably the easiest part of it. Jared On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 17:24, Johnson, Michael wrote: Just lurking as usual, but Craig Schallahammer (sp) has a fairly extensive technical

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
David I analyze the tables each week primarily to populate NUM_ROWS in USER_TABLES. I use ANALYZE TABLE because that works better in 8.1.6. Then I save the data to a separate table along with the date I did it. The primary rows are schema_name (if there is more than one schema of interest),

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Johnson, Michael
Title: Capacity Planning Methods? Just lurking as usual, but Craig Schallahammer (sp) has a fairly extensive technical seminar on methods DBAs can use for capacity planning. Here is the link to his web-site. http://www.orapub.com/cgi/genesis.cgi -Original Message-From: David

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread David Wagoner
Title: RE: Capacity Planning Methods? Rich, I'd love to see the procedure and table that you use. Thanks for offering. Best regards, David B. Wagoner Database Administrator Arsenal Digital Solutions

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Come on Brad, this is the guy's wife you're talking about !! =) Mike -Original Message- Sent: 12 August 2003 15:14 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L EWWAH! Morgan FairchildYUK! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:44 AM To: Multiple

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Odland, Brad
EWWAH! Morgan FairchildYUK! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L blush Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it! The very same! And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked. sigh

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-12 Thread Jesse, Rich
OK, I'll post it. Salt to taste or toss it in the garbage. Note that this is just collecting data and doesn't make any recommendations or such. Comments and critiques welcome, except from Mladen... (running for cover) ;) And, of course, standard disclaimers apply! Rich Rich Jesse

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-11 Thread Jesse, Rich
PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 4:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Capacity Planning Methods? David I analyze the tables each week

RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Hand, Michael T
One thing I don't think I've seen mentioned is the issue of storage configuration and uptime requirements impact on capacity planning. Is the planned system 7x24 or will there be maintenance windows to add storage? Can storage be added hot or is downtime required. These issues will require the

Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!! Hello All, It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a capacity planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth . I have taken Sales as business object to correlate with the DB size . I think in our case both

Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!! Hello All, It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a capacity planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth

RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/17/2002 11:25 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!! Hello All, It should include all as you said

Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Jared . Still
to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!! Jared, Can you send me the script you use. I can't even figure out the syntax for DBMS_SPACE from the docs. I would be very

Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
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RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Reddy - Step number one is to immediately begin collecting size data. For most sites, storing a weekly count of the number of rows in each table is sufficient. Usually combine it with regular ANALYZE TABLE or DBMS_STATS executions. This will be your basis for making projections. Then get to

Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-17 Thread Stephane Paquette
Check the link Kirti has posted (orapub). Is capacity planning only on the database size ? In my mind it also includes : Transaction description (online and batch) Transaction frequency (online and batch) Transaction window Networking requirements Number of users (all and

RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-17 Thread Reddy, Madhusudana
Hello All, It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a capacity planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth . I have taken Sales as business object to correlate with the DB size . I think in our case both of them are directly proportional. ( Business

RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-17 Thread Jared . Still
: Subject:RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!! Hello All, It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a capacity planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth . I have taken Sales as business object to correlate with the DB

RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-17 Thread Stephane Paquette
There is not really capacity planning here. I'm starting a new job as a permanent employee and since my first project is quite small, I've started writing a capacity planning guide hoping the other groups will collaborate. One thing we do is to run statspack each hour on all production databases

RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-16 Thread Mandar A. Ghosalkar
Title: Blank so how r u gonna do it? 1 business object = n number of rows in m different tables + indexes if regular day then x number of business objects are created if holiday then y number of business objects are created and are u going to considering the historical growth ofdatabase

RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-16 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Title: Blank Craig Shallahamer has a good training class on this topic : http://www.orapub.com/cgi/genesis.cgi?p1=subp2=cp_course - Kirti -Original Message-From: Reddy, Madhusudana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:19 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-16 Thread Yechiel Adar
Title: Blank Load 5-10% of the stuff and see how much it takes . From this you can calculate. No formula will give you accurate results, mainly because actual field length vary so much that approximation is useless. (based on a lot of years checking this) Yechiel AdarMehish -

Re: Capacity planning courses

2002-06-24 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Check out the courses offered by Craig Shallahammar (sp?) at www.orapub.com --- Schauss, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to everyone who made suggestions on training courses. Looking at my skill set and the requirements of my current position, I am thinking about taking a course in

RE: Capacity planning courses

2002-06-24 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Check out www.orapub.com. Craig Shallahamer conducts Capacity Planning course. I have not yet attended one but I have heard from others that the course is very good. - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thanks to

Re: Capacity planning courses

2002-06-24 Thread Jared Still
Craig Shallahamer, www.orapub.com. I've taken the class, it's excellent. Two things you will learn: * There's more to capacity planning than you thought * It's not that hard to do, given the tools and techniques. Jared On Monday 24 June 2002 06:43, Schauss, Peter wrote: Thanks to

RE: Capacity Planning

2002-06-14 Thread Ferenc Mantfeld
Mike You have not specified how much memory is on the machine, neither have you specified which application you will be running against the box. also, are you going to be using an intelligent RAID controller device (EMC, Shark, similar) with this ? Are you running this across a LAN / WAN ? Are

RE: CAPACITY planning

2002-05-30 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Check Craig Shallahamer's web site (http://www.orapub.com) for Capacity Planning documents. He also conducts a training class on this topic. I have yet to attend it, but I have heard that it is good and worth attending. - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:57

RE: capacity planning??

2002-02-08 Thread Jack C. Applewhite
Shibu, Go to http://www.orapub.com Craig Shallahamer is THE Guru on the subject. I took his course a couple years ago - excellent! Jack Jack C. ApplewhiteDatabase Administrator/DeveloperOCP Oracle8 DBAiNetProfit, Inc.Austin, Texaswww.iNetProfit.com[EMAIL

RE: capacity planning??

2002-02-08 Thread Jared . Still
] cc: Subject:RE: capacity planning?? Shibu, Go to http://www.orapub.com Craig Shallahamer is THE Guru on the subject. I took his course a couple years ago - excellent! Jack Jack C. Applewhite Database Administrator/Developer OCP Oracle8 DBA

RE: Capacity Planning

2002-02-05 Thread Ferguson II, Roy E
for sun: Configuration and capacity planning for Solaris servers by Brian L. Wong. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Could anyone direct me to some excellent documentation on capacity planning or give any insights that

RE: Capacity Planning.

2001-05-22 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Hi Shreepad, Check out http://www.orapub.com//cgi//genesis.cgi?p1=subp2=train_main. Craig Shallahamer offers a training class on all the things you are looking for. Worth attending. HTH, Regards, - Kirti Deshpande Verizon Information Services http://www.superpages.com -Original

RE: Capacity Planning.

2001-05-22 Thread Christopher Spence
Adrian's Sun performance tuning book has some great comments on this. Highly recommend looking at it, even though not Oracle specific entirely, VERY good start. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:22 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi List , Any one has any

Re: Capacity Planning.

2001-05-22 Thread Jared Still
For starters, you are going to require some information from the project manager/developers/users or whoever is driving the project. Avg # of users simultaneously connected Avg # of transactions Avg transaction size Desired average response time. This should really be part of a Service Level

RE: Capacity Planning.

2001-05-22 Thread Christopher Spence
Excellent resource I might add. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Shreepad, Check out http://www.orapub.com//cgi//genesis.cgi?p1=subp2=train_main. Craig Shallahamer offers a training class on all the things you are