Re: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?

2003-10-07 Thread Paul Drake
--- Paul Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jacques Kilchoer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In what cases does the SERIAL# need to be used? orakill. sqlnet.expire_timeout did not work on NT for 8.1.7. garbage middle-tier apps that don't close connections require the use of orakill.

RE: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?

2003-10-07 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Thank you for your answer. My question was more along the lines why doesn't kill session use audsid? Mr. Kangaraj provided the answer that audsid is 0 for some sessions, or, in older databases, when AUDIT_TRAIL is not TRUE. My question would then be: why doesn't auditing use SID/SERIAL# instead

RE: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?

2003-10-06 Thread John Kanagaraj
Jacques, In what cases does the SERIAL# need to be used? Can someone give an example where a session-level command would be applied to an incorrect session object if SERIAL# were not available? For backward compatibility reasons :) Looks like AUDSID wasn't generated 7.2 and prior unless

RE: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?

2003-10-06 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Thank you John. I guess I can revise my question, then, to say Why not use SID/SERIAL# all the time? :) I suppose there are reasons but it seems unnecessary to have two sets of values that uniquely identify a session. Though of course, from the documentation, AUDSID is unique over the lifetime

Re: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?

2003-10-06 Thread Paul Drake
--- Jacques Kilchoer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In what cases does the SERIAL# need to be used? orakill. sqlnet.expire_timeout did not work on NT for 8.1.7. garbage middle-tier apps that don't close connections require the use of orakill. Pd __ Do you Yahoo!?