AW &^%$, Pardon me! It's Motorola not Magnavox. Damned old age showing itself,
again!!
Dick Goulet
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Date: 7/17/2002 2:33 PM
Magnavox? As in the TV? ;)
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Mike,
Apple is still trying to compete with MicroSlop & having a hard time
of it
as well. I believe Apple's major problem competing is that Magnavox chip
they
remain stuck to. MicroSoft went and let someone else build the machines
instead
of doing it all themselves. Therefore you end up with a monopoly in
software in
a sea of competing hardware vendors. Panacea at it's best.
OH DARN, here comes those Lindows folks with their Linux based windows
environment. Darn, someone had to upset the boat sooner or later. (Got
to play
with one of those WalMart specials with Lindows on it. I'm SERIOUSLY
impressed.)
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Johnson; Michael " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 7/17/2002 11:05 AM
There are those that argue Apple provided competition
to Microsoft. Not very good competition, but competition
nonetheless and so the monopoly argument goes out
the window. I agree Microsoft is substandard product,
especially with regard to the server based class.
However, the market place has spoken very clearly
and it is up to someone else to come and take away
some of Microsofts Pie !
In 1998, at Oracle OpenWorld, McNally and Ellision
completely trashed Microsoft and Bill Gates in one of
those open morning sessions. My thought at the time
was , instead of bitchin about them , why dont you
just go compete against them and put them out of
business.
Well, its 2002 and Sun / Oracle now have
major business problems and Microsoft just
seems to keep on truckin. I havent heard
much lately from Scott and Larry regarding
this issue. Perhaps they are putting together
a good technical presentation for Openworld
this year and that will give me a good
reason to go.
maybe I will hear good technical presentations
instead of thoughtless meanderings and tirades about folks
they are obviously jeoulous of.
FWIW.
Mike
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Hi Mike,
I just got a bit of a chuckle when you mentioned "free market system" and
"Microsoft" in the same breath. Microsoft didn't get to be the biggest by
having the best product. They got it from the best marketing and
unscrupulous and illegal business practices (tried to say that without
using
the over-used "Monopoly"!).
Oracle can make claims that they are the best because they can actually
prove some or most those claims. MS can't. Sorry for sounding like a
whiner, but it's been a Microsoft day at it's best. Multiple reboots for
everyone! Yay!
OK, enough whining. It's no fun when you can't whine/complain to someone
without having some brewskis! :)
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
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USA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:03 PM
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>
>
> I would add to this ......
>
> In a free market system nobody should
> look at the negative side when people make
> money off of their hard work or investments.
> This is the way it is set up.
>
> Why not say "damn, how did he do
> it and where do I get in line to get
> some of that action ?"
>
> I always find it interesting the envy and/or
> disgust that some folks have toward people
> who make alot of money.
>
> Think of all the middle class people
> Larry Ellison and crew put to work who
> bought homes and cars to drive our economy.
>
> I didnt care for any of Larry and Scotts
> bitchin and moanin about Microsoft and
> Bill Gates, but I say to Larry .. "More power
> to you to make more money, keep gettin richer
> and help build our economy. Keep on truckin !"
>
> FWIW.
>
> Mike
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