SYS vs SYSTEM

2001-11-29 Thread Ken Janusz
8.1.7 on W2000 select owner, table_name, tablespace_name from dba_all_tables; When I log into sqlplus as SYS is runs. When I log into sqlplus as SYSTEM I get the error table or view does not exit. What is happening here and how do I fix it? Thanks, Ken -- Please see the official ORACLE-L

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2001-11-29 Thread Van M. Etheridge
Hi Ken, My guess is that you need to set up sys.dba_all_tables with a public synonym. HTH Van -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 8.1.7 on W2000 select owner, table_name, tablespace_name from dba_all_tables; When

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2001-11-29 Thread Stephane Faroult
Van M. Etheridge wrote: Hi Ken, My guess is that you need to set up sys.dba_all_tables with a public synonym. HTH Van -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 8.1.7 on W2000 select owner, table_name,

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2001-06-16 Thread ARUN K C
] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SYS vs SYSTEM Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:27:12 -0800 How about oradim and server manager? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 5:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

SYS vs SYSTEM

2001-06-15 Thread Guy Hammond
Hi all, I generally use SYSTEM rather than SYS for DBA work, and would like to discourage the use of SYS as much as possible. Partly because it bypasses auditing and the profile, and also because I tend to regard SYS as being for Oracle-specific things (like running scripts from

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2001-06-15 Thread Jon Walthour
From: Guy Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:55:43 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SYS vs SYSTEM Hi all, I generally use SYSTEM rather

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2001-06-15 Thread Kevin Lange
Thats the same as here. We use SYSTEM for all our automated scripts. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 4:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I generally use SYSTEM rather than SYS for DBA work, and would like to discourage the use of SYS as much as

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2001-06-15 Thread Christopher Spence
recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SYS vs SYSTEM Hi all, I generally use SYSTEM rather than SYS for DBA work, and would like to discourage the use of SYS as much as possible. Partly because it bypasses auditing and the profile, and also because I tend to regard SYS as being

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2001-06-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SYS vs SYSTEM Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:55:43 -0800 Hi all, I generally use SYSTEM rather than SYS for DBA work, and would like to discourage the use of SYS as much as possible. Partly because it bypasses auditing and the profile, and also

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2001-06-15 Thread William Beilstein
What account I use depends on what I am doing. For example to set up roles, grant rights, and create users I use the SYSTEM account. For anything else, I use my DBA account. The reason is that if I ever leave and my account is removed, all those rights that I granted and all the roles that I

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2001-06-15 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Bill, Roles created by a user never go away. They are not attached to the user. They belong to the system (I just tried this in 816 - created a user, granted CREATE_ROLE to that user, connected as that user, created a role and dropped the user - the role still exists). Likewise grants to

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2001-06-15 Thread William Beilstein
That might be true in Oracle 8, but was a problem in Oracle 7. Just being paranoid. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/15/01 11:11AM Bill, Roles created by a user never go away. They are not attached to the user. They belong to the system (I just tried this in 816 - created a user, granted CREATE_ROLE to

Re: SYS vs SYSTEM

2001-06-15 Thread Greg Moore
Tom, Why do you use SYS exclusively for startup and shutdown, since your DBA priv account could also accomplish this? - Greg -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX:

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2001-06-15 Thread Henry Poras
Well, you could always set synonyms so they wouldn't notice. I typically make SYS off limits by making the password inaccessible. IDENTIFIED BY VALUES 'no way'; Henry -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 5:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I generally

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2001-06-15 Thread Christopher Spence
Well you will have alot of scripts to change, internal is gone in 9i. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:41 PM To: Multiple recipients

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2001-06-15 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Ah, you take me for a fool! It's in one file per instance! And the Rman job is one file per machine - shared by all instances! thank you, thank you, hat tipping, hat tipping. crowd roaring. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001

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2001-06-15 Thread lhoska
Is it the same old rumor or it could be confirmed 100%? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 3:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well you will have alot of scripts to change, internal is gone in 9i. Walking on water and developing software from a specification

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2001-06-15 Thread Mustafa
It's gone. And for SYS logins, you must login as SYS as sysdba or SYS as sysoper. The threat of internal going away has been around for a long time. It looks like they finally acted upon it. Defry - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

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2001-06-15 Thread eric harrington
Trying to connect using INTERNAL via SQLPLUS. Platform is Solaris 2.6, Oracle 9i. Logged in as oracle user. Oracle user is a member of the dba group and CONNECT INTERNAL works fine in 8i. See following error message for 9i: ORA-09275: CONNECT INTERNAL is not a valid DBA connection

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2001-06-15 Thread John Kanagaraj
Roles created by a user never go away. They are not attached to the user. Just keep in mind that the role is automatically assigned to the user who created it. And this can land you in a *bit* of a problem when you import that user in another database and bump into MAX_ENABLED_ROLES (which